[gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Mark Haney]

Okay, I've been watching and waiting for KDE 4.1 to hit portage, via an 
overlay or otherwise. I've seen new HOWTOs on getting it emerged, but 
after my fun with KDE4.0.5 I'm a little more cautious.  So, has anyone 
used the directions on installing KDE4.1, do they work okay?  Does it 
emerge okay?  And most importantly, does it work?


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Dieter Ries]

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Mark Haney schrieb:
> Okay, I've been watching and waiting for KDE 4.1 to hit portage, via an 
> overlay or otherwise. I've seen new HOWTOs on getting it emerged, but 
> after my fun with KDE4.0.5 I'm a little more cautious.  So, has anyone 
> used the directions on installing KDE4.1, do they work okay?  

Just laymaned the overlay and emerged. No special directions. Just use a 
new user first.

> Does it emerge okay?  

Yes, no problem here on AMD64

> And most importantly, does it work?
> 
No, it doesnt really work. Effects still suck, the bar still sucks, ff3 
crashes ... --> back to 3.5.9 waiting for 4.2

cu
Dieter

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 5. August 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
> Okay, I've been watching and waiting for KDE 4.1 to hit portage, via an
> overlay or otherwise. I've seen new HOWTOs on getting it emerged, but
> after my fun with KDE4.0.5 I'm a little more cautious.  So, has anyone
> used the directions on installing KDE4.1, do they work okay?  Does it
> emerge okay?  And most importantly, does it work?

layman -a kdesvn-portage
linking the files in Documentation to /etc/portage/package.keywords/ and 
.unmask/

pmerge kde-meta-4.1.0

works great one ebuild or so from over 200 did not work (kfloppy which I don't 
need anyway) --ignore-failures (with pkgcore) or keep-going (portage) are your 
friends.

kde 4.1 works very well. There is a kwin crash on logout - but that is easy to 
deal with - click away the info box and logout/shutdown proceeds.

There is only one annoying bug: 
kmail/konqueror/kopete/kio_http/kio_pop3/kwallet aren't really quit if you 
close their window and accumulate over time. The bug is already reported. It 
does not hurt much - once in a while a killall is needed. Maybe a kde4.1 bug 
or a glibc bug - I don't know.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Mark Haney]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> 
> works great one ebuild or so from over 200 did not work (kfloppy which I don't 
> need anyway) --ignore-failures (with pkgcore) or keep-going (portage) are your 
> friends.
> 
> kde 4.1 works very well. There is a kwin crash on logout - but that is easy to 
> deal with - click away the info box and logout/shutdown proceeds.
> 
> There is only one annoying bug: 
> kmail/konqueror/kopete/kio_http/kio_pop3/kwallet aren't really quit if you 
> close their window and accumulate over time. The bug is already reported. It 
> does not hurt much - once in a while a killall is needed. Maybe a kde4.1 bug 
> or a glibc bug - I don't know.
> 
> 

The last reply mentioned something about FF3 crashing, do you experience 
that problem?


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Constantine D. Kardaris]

Ebuilds from overlay work well on amd64.and i'm using 4.1 till RC release.
Some minor glitches here and there but i believe that can be fixed in
the next bugfix release.
Actually i'm pretty happy. No prob at all...
ff3 is working well, no crashes here


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote:
> Okay, I've been watching and waiting for KDE 4.1 to hit portage, via an
> overlay or otherwise. I've seen new HOWTOs on getting it emerged, but after
> my fun with KDE4.0.5 I'm a little more cautious.  So, has anyone used the
> directions on installing KDE4.1, do they work okay?  Does it emerge okay?
>  And most importantly, does it work?
>
>
> --
> Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar
>
>
> Mark Haney
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> ERC Broadband
> (828) 350-2415
>
> Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support
>
>

Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 5. August 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > works great one ebuild or so from over 200 did not work (kfloppy which I
> > don't need anyway) --ignore-failures (with pkgcore) or keep-going
> > (portage) are your friends.
> >
> > kde 4.1 works very well. There is a kwin crash on logout - but that is
> > easy to deal with - click away the info box and logout/shutdown proceeds.
> >
> > There is only one annoying bug:
> > kmail/konqueror/kopete/kio_http/kio_pop3/kwallet aren't really quit if
> > you close their window and accumulate over time. The bug is already
> > reported. It does not hurt much - once in a while a killall is needed.
> > Maybe a kde4.1 bug or a glibc bug - I don't know.
>
> The last reply mentioned something about FF3 crashing, do you experience
> that problem?

no. I don't use firefox much. But when I am using it (youtube, babyart, 
eurosport to see the vids and others) it works very well without any crashes. 
I use it everyday for a couple of sites and I had not one ff crash so far.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Beso]

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2008/8/5 Constantine D. Kardaris <ckardaris@gmail.com>

> Ebuilds from overlay work well on amd64.and i'm using 4.1 till RC release.
> Some minor glitches here and there but i believe that can be fixed in
> the next bugfix release.
> Actually i'm pretty happy. No prob at all...
> ff3 is working well, no crashes here
>

i have kde 4.1 working very well with all the apps i'm using (from firefox
to old 3.5 apps to gtk+ apps). the configurability is much more improved
than previous versions and the overall system is good. it is slotted and so
it can be installed and used with 3.5 not uninstalled.
the problem it has is with nvidia boards (8xx and 9xx series) due to bugs in
the nvidia driver (but there is some workaround on the kde.org site
somewhere) and the kwin effects aren't like compiz ones. compiz, though,
works very well with kde4 and kwindecorator4 if you use the 0.7 version from
the desktop-effects overlay and compile it with kde4 use flag. if it fails
just add /usr/kde/svn/bin to the PATH with export PATH=/usr/kde/svn/bin and
it should build. if that works just add a PATH=$PATH:/usr/kde/svn/bin  line
in the .bashrc file in the home directories of your users (/root/.bashrc and
/home/<your user name here>/.bashrc) this will make your kde 4.1 bin
directory available to command line without passing by full path.
one thig you might experience is that old 3.5 apps could have a blank icon
when started in kde4.

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dott. ing. beso

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.1

[Duncan]

Dieter Ries <clip2@gmx.de> posted 48985319.8030808@gmx.de, excerpted
below, on  Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:18:17 +0200:

> No, it doesnt really work. Effects still suck, the bar still sucks, ff3
> crashes ... --> back to 3.5.9 waiting for 4.2

I'm guessing you have an nVidia card and are using the proprietary 
driver.  That's a known issue, specifically mentioned in the release 
announcement.  A few people have reported better results with the beta 
nVidia driver, but even their new full release doesn't correct the 
problem, /only/ the beta driver, and I'm not sure it corrects it for 
everyone.

Me, being in general an eager beta tester (but a Radeon 9200 series not 
an nVidia user, I dumped nVidia upon first hardware upgrade after I 
groked that "Linux drivers" didn't necessarily mean "native freedomware 
Linux drivers"), after finding 4.0 at conference early-release tech-
preview level (WAY to early for beta), I expect 4.1 to be decent beta 
quality that I'll be happy with but wouldn't recommend to others except 
beta testers, and 4.2 to be finally looking like most .0 releases look.  
But having been burned with the .0 that was really an early tech-preview, 
I see little reason to try a beta of a beta, or 4.1 until it gets into 
the main tree, at least in masked state.  I've been checking every few 
days when I update, but until it's deemed good enough for that, I'm going 
to leave well enough alone and stick with 3.5.9 (which I now hear has its 
own update on the way, 3.5.10).

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.1

[Jonas Pedersen]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Dienstag, 5. August 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> works great one ebuild or so from over 200 did not work (kfloppy which I
>>> don't need anyway) --ignore-failures (with pkgcore) or keep-going
>>> (portage) are your friends.
>>>
>>> kde 4.1 works very well. There is a kwin crash on logout - but that is
>>> easy to deal with - click away the info box and logout/shutdown proceeds.
>>>
>>> There is only one annoying bug:
>>> kmail/konqueror/kopete/kio_http/kio_pop3/kwallet aren't really quit if
>>> you close their window and accumulate over time. The bug is already
>>> reported. It does not hurt much - once in a while a killall is needed.
>>> Maybe a kde4.1 bug or a glibc bug - I don't know.
>> The last reply mentioned something about FF3 crashing, do you experience
>> that problem?
> 
> no. I don't use firefox much. But when I am using it (youtube, babyart, 
> eurosport to see the vids and others) it works very well without any crashes. 
> I use it everyday for a couple of sites and I had not one ff crash so far.
> 
> 

I can also confirm that FF3 does not crash on my KDE 4.1 setup. Further 
to that I don't see the kwin crash on logout.

Brgds.
Jonas