From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkEPL-0003JU-2F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:14:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20C04E055E; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9410E055E for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so461034fkq.2 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oqTkBFANW67PHU33HC8/FZlyN4bp74SG8+cQikPdVbM=; b=GiITUshiuSBNMH/L52O3ipEiOxsfI6VsFlvgaY/6vrD12eK/Cm0NH/RNSOvv3WiKaXII4B3nIYQp3rLoaGV4hBLsYGtoVMFediT/VMS0kVw71qNTskXktp4mGqsxKVZmXjRa8btSn+16pUnWrhaTiqqp5EgjTY28KJ3IrwV4bZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cIrdSgY78/AlHa6gG93Q/jd1gOFo3RsqCvRFk4ZgwM9CEfJaoTr+UP9fhah6kV3gXMk6qLXpo/9oaQb4uLE8ksU9RmVO35unKAK0o4BVGPKX9ouVbXnyDLTpW0q6LXu5qDA0pglbmojRO7LdkXP5Zr9ul8iQn5XFkfYgk4+b9xs= Received: by 10.82.145.7 with SMTP id s7mr2691025bud.71.1207901687728; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.141.7 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:14:47 +0200 From: Beso To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: sudden sound loss In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0804101245t45d95992kd1397694c99e6d8@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29247_25596940.1207901687721" References: <47FDFD4E.1050301@ercbroadband.org> <47FE44FC.1040905@ercbroadband.org> <5bdc1c8b0804101010l7cc95e16x44eaf3a95fa17d97@mail.gmail.com> <47FE4C4F.4030100@ercbroadband.org> <5bdc1c8b0804101043pdfacaeep2d6793d11ceac10@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0804101245t45d95992kd1397694c99e6d8@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 45cb77f3-bcdc-458a-a6bb-f78bd5d95174 X-Archives-Hash: df21e4de0011614b50c88849617d2f58 ------=_Part_29247_25596940.1207901687721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/4/10, Mark Knecht : > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > "Mark Knecht" posted > > 5bdc1c8b0804101043pdfacaeep2d6793d11ceac10@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > > below, on Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:43:10 -0700: > > > > > > > I cannot even remember anymore how many times these setting have > fooled > > > me. I use a lot of audio apps and they have a tendency to leave some > of > > > these settings in somewhat unknown states so starting here generally > > > works for me. > > > > Same here. No one's an idiot for missing some of those obscure > function > > settings with even more obscure names, once in awhile. It happens, > which > > is exactly why I suggested covering the simple basics like that first. > > > > > I don't know if others have the same problem I do but every time I > look at alsamixer I don't have a clue whether something is muted or > not. I generally have to hit 'm' a few times to refresh my memory of > which way it is set. > > Something about the visual design of that app doesn't automatically > trigger for me. to me alsamixer is quite a bore. i prefer to use alsa only to configure the modules to load and the starting volumes. after that i use kde mixer to adjust them. i think it's better, clearer and simpler. also i only have front, sw-synth and cd out as mixers, since the other are useless and making them visible might provoke problems like your. -- dott. ing. beso ------=_Part_29247_25596940.1207901687721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

2008/4/10, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> posted
>  5bdc1c8b0804101043pdfacaeep2d6793d11ceac10@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
>  below, on  Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:43:10 -0700:
>
>
>  > I cannot even remember anymore how many times these setting have fooled
>  > me. I use a lot of audio apps and they have a tendency to leave some of
>  > these settings in somewhat unknown states so starting here generally
>  > works for me.
>
>  Same here.  No one's an idiot for missing some of those obscure function
>  settings with even more obscure names, once in awhile.  It happens, which
>  is exactly why I suggested covering the simple basics like that first.
>


I don't know if others have the same problem I do but every time I
look at alsamixer I don't have a clue whether something is muted or
not. I generally have to hit 'm' a few times to refresh my memory of
which way it is set.

Something about the visual design of that app doesn't automatically
trigger for me.

to me alsamixer is quite a bore. i prefer to use alsa only to configure the modules to load and the starting volumes. after that i use kde mixer to adjust them. i think it's better, clearer and simpler. also i only have front, sw-synth and cd out as mixers, since the other are useless and making them visible might provoke problems like your.


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