From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JM3cL-0008Ob-Mk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:52:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43875E038D; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F44E038D for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so2005189fga.14 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Z1nWzMc3stLJgNWWIS9PDk3u7c3gFzlNG2drUtSIkbc=; b=K681EoWRxdb3cEbTolhOj8ixhglzS5vfCUe2yVC43xqg1sDNgCITB46PsqFnEZOKJmOcEJk8NcNw3MWVPQlrtDIF3SbuxnjOmFB/eRumK0hWLgHynh/hw0Riq5Wl+ITF+f1j1UTJpMhzGM4hf0GX0qqID+OoTW7oWzgYCdd9oOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qAjgvClQXOl159/qZ0perClkrI9ZWXAAU8lZdCdoR9zyV1qFl2tXD552zguqaLAKae22JZqUUHjLHULNrWdqPW+nYWeAPAkpan1diZ2SFx+QX3pJx+u4LEEwhfDvVkmFgfGQPoKRzi5Ke29MEKey5EHKcXm4kQ2WYKgn2hlX8+4= Received: by 10.82.150.20 with SMTP id x20mr13267760bud.37.1202140338680; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.141.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:52:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:52:18 +0000 From: Beso To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] new laptop In-Reply-To: <20080204165303.3c51d110@cuci> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5114_26928409.1202140338671" References: <1201555535.24379.1.camel@gentoo> <20080203170549.76c8fe28@cuci> <20080204093928.052665b5@cuci> <20080204154841.46b58481@cuci> <20080204165303.3c51d110@cuci> X-Archives-Salt: 93d76fc6-0e00-401e-b684-47594cde836c X-Archives-Hash: f0eb99cc072b8a306a5261000f427c11 ------=_Part_5114_26928409.1202140338671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/2/4, ionut cucu : > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:21:29 +0000 > Beso wrote: > > > 2008/2/4, ionut cucu : > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:26:57 +0000 > > > Beso wrote: > > > > > what do the files inside /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and > > /proc/acpi/processor/ contain?! > cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/ > cooling_mode polling_frequency state temperature > trip_points > cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/* > > > state: ok > temperature: 0 C > critical (S5): 100 C > cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/ > info limit performance power throttling > > the content of the /proc/acpi/processor/CPUx files it attached since is > rather large for an email > > for klaptop, you have to first configure it. set everything to > > conservative, it should raise your processor speed based on your > > needs. be sure also to add cpufrequtils as a service at boot and to > > load the eventual modules at boot time by adding them to > > the /etc/modules.autoload/kernel-2.6 so that they load at boot. > > without cufrequtils and the modules (if you've build the stuff as > > modules and you've done it if you've used my config) you won't be > > able to switch. without rebooting you could open konsole and start > > cpufrequtils with /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils start and then add it with > > rc-update add cpufrequtils default and then modprobe > > cpufreq_powersave && modprobe cpufreq_conservative && modprobe > > cpufreq_performance. now you should be able to switch them with > > klaptop. > Not yet I'm not....also the profiles in klaptop(which just overheated > again and it's at 90 degrees and rising in 800Mhz) are named as the > P0,1,2 states(x Mhz, y mW,z uS) and not as they were(conservatve.....) > > don't use kpowersaved since it doesn't work anymore or at > > least on my pc it cannot find acpid started. if you'd like a monitor > > for kde there are different solutions: > > - one is superkaramba with some theme like aero-aio > > - kima which is directly included into the kicker as an applet and can > > monitor thermal, processor temp, processor load, uptime, battery and > > processor and /proc speed. i prefer this solution since it's faster > > to see and never gets covered by apps letting me see always the state > > of the system. > > for lm_sensors instead, is quite ok to not have fan control since the > > fan on a notebook is not usually connected to some control sensor but > > is controlled directly by acpi. on notebooks usually you might find > > some monitor for cpu core, for some removable media like pccards and > > nand devices like mmd. the only thing that is useful is the core > > processor monitor which gives you the temp of the core(s) and it lets > > you have an idea of how your processor works . remember that thermal > > temp might be different and usually is higher than core temp. > Thanks, that I did not knew, I'm new to laptops and their fan > "drivers"/sensors and such. I never did had an temp issue on my > machine, although it has to speed states. > > also some helpful utils for kde are: klipper (fabulous klipboard); > > kompose (osx kompose changer), ksynaptic (if you have synaptic or > > alps touchpads that usually get installed in notebooks), > > knetworkmanager + networkmanager and the new kde4 like kicker that > > includes a built-in search module that improves usability of kde. > > other useful kicker applets are the shutdown and block applets, the > > kmixer applet (this lets you remove from start kmix), the show > > desktop applet and the trash can applet. also for full kde experience > > i suggest kaffeine + xine (not 1.1.10 since it has some problems with > > external linkage) and amarok + xine. install xft and cairo with svg > > and pdf flags and search for the font antialiasing wiki that was on > > xeffects if i remember right. also ksplash-engine-moodin is wonderful > > for personalizing the ksplash and oxy-cursors from flameeyes-overlay > > are wonderful cursor themes. if you like osx be sure to search for a > > baghira how to and on how to make kde identical to osx (don't use > > kxdocker, though). and before using compiz be aware that ati drivers > > don't work well with it. for tuning ati drivers visit phoronix forums > > and you'll have a lot of info about > I'm a fluxbox fan, my brother nags me about kde though he knows these, > but I'm so worried about the temp(now for some reason it's dropping to > 70 celsius). > So I don't need no fancontrols but what do I need to keep these temps > stable and below 60?Because now I'm sure it heats up for no reason and > then when it feels like it it cools down. > > right now i'm studying some scripts to adapt them to your hw. i'll let you know when i finish them and i'll post them for you to test. -- dott. ing. beso ------=_Part_5114_26928409.1202140338671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/2/4, ionut cucu <cuciferus@gmail.com>:
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:21:29 +0000
Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/2/4, ionut cucu <cuciferus@gmail.com>:
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:26:57 +0000
> > Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > what do the files inside /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and
> /proc/acpi/processor/ contain?!
cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/
cooling_mode       polling_frequency  state              temperature
trip_points
cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/*
<setting not supported>
<polling disabled>
state:                   ok
temperature:             0 C
critical (S5):           100 C
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/
info         limit        performance  power        throttling

the content of the /proc/acpi/processor/CPUx files it attached since is
rather large for an email
> for klaptop, you have to first configure it. set everything to
> conservative, it should raise your processor speed based on your
> needs. be sure also to add cpufrequtils as a service at boot and to
> load the eventual modules at boot time by adding them to
> the /etc/modules.autoload/kernel-2.6 so that they load at boot.
> without cufrequtils and the modules (if you've build the stuff as
> modules and you've done it if you've used my config) you won't be
> able to switch. without rebooting you could open konsole and start
> cpufrequtils with /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils start and then add it with
> rc-update add cpufrequtils default and then modprobe
> cpufreq_powersave && modprobe cpufreq_conservative && modprobe
> cpufreq_performance. now you should be able to switch them with
> klaptop.
Not yet I'm not....also the profiles in klaptop(which just overheated
again and it's at 90 degrees and rising in 800Mhz) are named as the
P0,1,2 states(x Mhz, y mW,z uS) and not as they were(conservatve.....)

don't use kpowersaved since it doesn't work anymore or at
> least on my pc it cannot find acpid started. if you'd like a monitor
> for kde there are different solutions:
> - one is superkaramba with some theme like aero-aio
> - kima which is directly included into the kicker as an applet and can
> monitor thermal, processor temp, processor load, uptime, battery and
> processor and /proc speed. i prefer this solution since it's faster
> to see and never gets covered by apps letting me see always the state
> of the system.
> for lm_sensors instead, is quite ok to not have fan control since the
> fan on a notebook is not usually connected to some control sensor but
> is controlled directly by acpi. on notebooks usually you might find
> some monitor for cpu core, for some removable media like pccards and
> nand devices like mmd. the only thing that is useful is the core
> processor monitor which gives you the temp of the core(s) and it lets
> you have an idea of how your processor works . remember that thermal
> temp might be different and usually is higher than core temp.
Thanks, that I did not knew, I'm new to laptops and their fan
"drivers"/sensors and such. I never did had an temp issue on my
machine, although it has to speed states.
> also some helpful utils for kde are: klipper (fabulous klipboard);
> kompose (osx kompose changer), ksynaptic (if you have synaptic or
> alps touchpads that usually get installed in notebooks),
> knetworkmanager + networkmanager and the new kde4 like kicker that
> includes a built-in search module that improves usability of kde.
> other useful kicker applets are the shutdown and block applets, the
> kmixer applet (this lets you remove from start kmix), the show
> desktop applet and the trash can applet. also for full kde experience
> i suggest kaffeine + xine (not 1.1.10 since it has some problems with
> external linkage) and amarok + xine. install xft and cairo with svg
> and pdf flags and search for the font antialiasing wiki that was on
> xeffects if i remember right. also ksplash-engine-moodin is wonderful
> for personalizing the ksplash and oxy-cursors from flameeyes-overlay
> are wonderful cursor themes. if you like osx be sure to search for a
> baghira how to and on how to make kde identical to osx (don't use
> kxdocker, though). and before using compiz be aware that ati drivers
> don't work well with it. for tuning ati drivers visit phoronix forums
> and you'll have a lot of info about
I'm a fluxbox fan, my brother nags me about kde though he knows these,
but I'm so worried about the temp(now for some reason it's dropping to
70 celsius).
So I don't need no fancontrols but what do I need to keep these temps
stable and below 60?Because now I'm sure it heats up for no reason and
then when it feels like it it cools down.


right now i'm studying some scripts to adapt them to your hw. i'll let you know when i finish them and i'll post them for you to test.

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