From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SAumh-0008Nf-2N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 03:03:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAA2BE07E0 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 03:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16C1E0AFA for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1375904wib.10 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VtQNU2BSJ7r+G451EtSHP3b2TFYVSH46Jutc7ZnEuGQ=; b=IiWPNrfiBnM8pNMc6wNlxohnF7ZBnBFMcG/Ss8Y3bXxRAo3/ptKrVa3YGPb+PP8cSZ 45HeL4H6Dp3wTq0DlidbLLkoc2daDdK54waLoL8SM+98V5is3rxCd06muWTzOGobtXxj +ohXSJD+IWM+9IqsaAc47jQCXQcgzuSnDkBG5UhFIN0e988J5iY99I7b8iVd4H+N/Eqw JRE6QHf1uAD0qfm1jhsh4sNgd79RUUtj8+oqtr+3CvyJks8KJWRUnyiMPl4md/eLhOAa Cg7dzjVDqEuBu40h9JRQWG45AvgWcDJVCxlH/RMd87zJuBJAd3Ccv3C+HQe0JIhy5ixh bSIA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr2230567wib.6.1332466204774; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.8.68 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120322213254.GA26298@crud> References: <20120319121229.0a9ecd3b.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322144131.5f02745a.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322213254.GA26298@crud> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:30:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Outside of portage (was Re: [gentoo-amd64] Kernel-3.3.0 and Nvidia-drivers) From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 83a34795-9212-46b4-b208-6be0b330d6ee X-Archives-Hash: 720769742f2acca090ad14d317d549e4 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Barry Schwartz wrote: > Frank Peters skribis: >> Out of habit, I still use the kernel sources from kernel.org. > > This makes me curious what other people are using from outside of > Portage. I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it > is a bad thing to upgrade unless you have to; and (b) the Grub 2 > ebuilds were broken anyway, and I didn=E2=80=99t want to switch back to G= rub 1 > when moving from Exherbo back to Gentoo. So I used the default GNU > install procedure in /usr/local. If the machine boots, the machine > boots, and I=E2=80=99m satisfied. > > (I also use only package.use and not make.conf for use flags, a habit > picked up from using Paludis, and recently got rid of package.mask and > use package.accepted_keywords for all my masking. Lots of redundancy > in Portage these days, maybe a bit too much.) > In my case nothing outside of portage. I'm not a software developer or IT professional. I just want my system to work. All my systems are amd64 stable with a few ~amd64 packages & libraries, as well as a couple of flags in make.conf but most flags in package.use. I do use a couple of overlays but I don't maintain any local overlays, again not wanting to deal with any of that stuff. I do use package.mask when I want or need to delay something getting onto one of my machines that I just don't want to deal with until others have proved it works. (Think about the new udev coming out...) Cheers, Mark