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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo AMD64 <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things...
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:20:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+ed_nKYaMdaGgctJDSZDK3QOCfq34Jce9YSjLS36pitGtA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140303141044.a39135a353f02757254832f3@comcast.net>

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:20:29 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I have never used udev/eudev/mdev or anything similar and, if I am allowed
>> > to nave a choice, I never will.
>>
>> You will always have that choice, since the software is free.
>>
>
> That's not true anymore.  My USB scanners will not operate unless udev
> is able to create an entry within the /dev tree.
>
> Fortunately, I was able to discover a work-around that does not require
> udev, but the point is that freedom of choice is starting to disappear.
> Udev will eventually be the *only* way to deal with hardware.

While I understand your point these two comments contradict each
other, or more accurately, the first was inaccurate in the sense that
someone needed to create your /dev entry, either udev or you, it
didn't matter. Once it was there your scanner worked, correct?

Again, I do understand the concern. Never having run systemd I have it
also. However the more I read the more tame the concerns seem to be.
They do, however, still exist...

- Mark


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-03 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-02 16:57 [gentoo-amd64] Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things Mark Knecht
2014-03-02 17:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-02 18:12   ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-02 18:38     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-02 18:10 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-02 18:32   ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-02 18:42     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-02 18:58       ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-02 20:04         ` B Vance
2014-03-03 17:15   ` Tanstaafl
2014-03-03 17:40     ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-03 18:12       ` Frank Peters
2014-03-03 18:20         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-03 18:36           ` Barry Schwartz
2014-03-03 18:40             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-03 18:57               ` Barry Schwartz
2014-03-03 19:10                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-03 19:10           ` Frank Peters
2014-03-03 19:20             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-03 19:20             ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2014-03-03 21:51               ` Frank Peters
2014-03-03 22:00                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-03 22:02                 ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-03 19:26             ` Barry Schwartz
2014-03-03 18:32         ` Barry Schwartz
2014-03-03 17:44     ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-03-03 17:58       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-03-03 18:38         ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-03 18:57           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-03 19:09             ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-03 19:18           ` Drake Donahue
     [not found]           ` <5314d594.85a12b0a.3030.ffffda67SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2014-03-03 22:50             ` Mark Knecht
2014-03-03 19:43         ` Duncan
2014-03-03 19:56           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-13 10:10           ` Duncan
2014-03-13 13:45         ` [gentoo-amd64] Systemd Was: Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd [...] Duncan
2014-03-13 17:24           ` Phil Turmel
2014-03-13 17:55           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-13 19:20           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-03-15  6:21             ` Jonathan Callen
2014-03-15 10:11               ` [gentoo-amd64] Systemd and journald Was: Systemd Duncan
2014-03-03 17:47     ` [gentoo-amd64] Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things Canek Peláez Valdés

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