From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5505138CCA for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29EA1E0ACE; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74966E0ACC for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdnc3 with SMTP id c3so187887684pdn.0 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OS2GAeRynk07BWUQk0rRsHHhE2EGrYWtjnCJUs7vNFM=; b=w+9x4kxdYB1THGJnoY0DfplEPVJZODVdEl2aoUaYR6cIGdy8Bov5rFJpWERfpUouQR JOYyGbCzK5rA3z61RA8VxCCh4T8W4JAy2b9KVYnNAWsj91Uc/zaMQbRSMeiVpMgXe/3Q I72UbTO3J5lV5Ox9lPm6AXGVcdFudp9IM53fFI5vh2zyClEBsHdDKJgPsu88nuXm3jF2 4C8C2gbcVzzMIrgfiElbmU5GUGiX53T+naiqiqnhsEILRuCT9WFoDZBkqYcXLJ4Z9h13 C6fVXGsnwa8DO4Swg8VrDDgRIrm5Lp2WAHnoBpQIxKPQTl1xGPF8z+xYyuyBmrlBc/GN XKjg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.140.101 with SMTP id rf5mr3827003pab.50.1427750782586; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.101 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150330170458.67fbe3b2a92184b60e150742@comcast.net> References: <20150330170458.67fbe3b2a92184b60e150742@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:26:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Did devs change phonon flags without rev'ing package? From: Mark Knecht To: Gentoo AMD64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 472d1708-c727-48da-8c5f-2f14a2866dd8 X-Archives-Hash: 50a6047327194aad96998b7146db1dcb On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Frank Peters wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:15:55 -0700 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Yesterday I was emerge -DuN @world clean. It took hours due to Gentoo >> decisions about multilib stuff. >> > > Is it still necessary to be using multilib? > > I've been using pure AMD64 for so long I tend to forget that > 32-bit stuff still exists. > > Frank Peters Hi Frank, Honestly, I really don't know and figure the answer is probably no, but it was when I set the machine up this way 5 or so years ago. Even today I still see messages from things like Virtualbox drivers saying they are using 32-bit modes, but what do I know? When emerge threw all this stuff at me Sunday I figured I had no reason to break a machine that has been working well so I let it do everything it wanted to do. I don't have any problems with them getting rid of emulation libraries and having everything built into the packages. I just wasn't prepare for the time it required yesterday. If I was to build a machine from scratch today I'd certainly investigate the question more closely but with an i7 980x, 24GB & about 5TB of storage I have no plans on new hardware at this time. Even with 3 Win 7 VMs running I seldom get above about 40% CPU usage. I get close to running out of DRAM at times so I'm careful. My disk subsystem is too slow but I've talked about that in the past. I just haven't done much about it. Cheers, Mark