From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Boycott Systemd
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:04:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kvbLyroLP82DzBrKiH2zBz4mCvdpzysUU-Xh96qhPziQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAUqkJ3-soF_v8vErGMAmjySp4gbkB98TbciSRy4Tb1=bSbA+Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Harry Holt <harryholt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The systemd folks are fine - it's all the other Linux devs (Linus, too) that
> are the real problem:
>
I think we're all part of the problem to an extent. Many of us
contribute to the flames, and many more of us contribute by tolerating
them.
Sometimes Lennart contributes his own flames to the mix, but I don't
think that really makes his comments any less valid. I've been around
Gentoo long enough to see several cycles of people ragequitting over
this kind of nonsense, and fortunately some do return. We probably
also receive in contributors who ragequit elsewhere, and other
projects take on those we abandon along the way. It is a bit sad, to
be honest, that despite the fact that we all share some common
passions for FOSS we still manage to drive each other up the wall at
times.
Somebody once commented at a Linux User Group meeting I attended that
if somebody came up with a "cure" for Aspergers it would destroy FOSS
overnight, and maybe this has something to do with it. :)
When I am confronted with this sort of stuff I always recall some
words of wisdom from the 90s - "Cypherpunks write code." In the end
we can complain about this or that, but the biggest lasting impact you
can have on an FOSS project is writing code. When I think about
that, I find myself spending less time tearing down people who are
actually writing code, and more time writing code myself.
--
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-07 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-21 17:25 [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Frank Peters
2014-09-21 17:37 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 18:30 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-21 19:15 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 19:20 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-21 19:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 19:33 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-21 19:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 19:48 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 21:13 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-21 22:04 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-21 22:15 ` Harry Holt
2014-09-21 22:28 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-22 5:27 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-09-22 0:26 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Frank Peters
2014-09-22 0:45 ` Rich Freeman
2014-09-22 2:02 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 2:34 ` Rich Freeman
2014-09-22 6:00 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-09-22 12:47 ` Harry Holt
2014-09-22 12:53 ` Rich Freeman
2014-09-22 16:14 ` Duncan
2014-09-23 14:55 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-24 11:25 ` Duncan
2014-09-24 16:58 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-25 4:12 ` Duncan
2014-09-25 11:34 ` Harry Holt
2014-10-07 14:18 ` Harry Holt
2014-10-07 14:55 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-10-07 17:04 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2014-10-07 20:43 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-10-07 20:54 ` Damien Levac
2014-10-07 21:19 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-10-07 21:45 ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-08 1:15 ` Frank Peters
2014-10-08 2:28 ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-08 3:19 ` Harry Holt
2014-10-08 12:34 ` Phil Turmel
2014-10-08 18:02 ` Frank Peters
2014-10-08 21:42 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-10-08 3:23 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 13:23 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 17:00 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 16:21 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 19:46 ` Duncan
2014-09-22 17:04 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Lie Ryan
2014-09-22 17:58 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 18:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-22 19:08 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 19:18 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-22 19:46 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 19:30 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 19:37 ` Rich Freeman
2014-09-22 19:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-22 19:54 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 20:08 ` Harry Holt
2014-09-22 20:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-23 4:00 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-23 3:51 ` Antoine Martin
2014-09-23 4:07 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-23 5:17 ` [gentoo-amd64] grub2 upgrade fail (was Boycott Systemd) Antoine Martin
2014-09-23 5:42 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-23 5:50 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-24 12:29 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-09-23 4:09 ` [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-23 4:32 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-23 4:48 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-23 5:49 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-23 6:05 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-23 6:31 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-23 5:28 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-23 17:11 ` Paul Jewell
2014-09-23 23:31 ` Systemd is really beside the point, anyway (was Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd) Barry Schwartz
2014-09-24 12:45 ` [gentoo-amd64] Re: Boycott Systemd Duncan
2014-09-22 18:41 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Frank Peters
2014-09-22 18:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-09-22 19:24 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 20:07 ` Frank Peters
2014-09-22 20:24 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 20:24 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2014-09-22 18:07 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Frank Peters
2014-09-22 16:11 ` Lie Ryan
2014-09-22 16:35 ` Barry Schwartz
2014-09-22 17:55 ` Frank Peters
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