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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Systemd migration: opinion and questions
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 07:37:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_knWSki1-9wBtVA3DNufOFcsTNzs1TTpCenQPePdUqvsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150523131156.01ba56fe@marcec>

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Marc Joliet <marcec@gmx.de> wrote:
> [snip empty @system approach]
>
> Wow, that's certainly an interesting approach!  It's definitely not for me,
> though.  While I appreciate the control Gentoo gives me, I don't need *that*
> kind of control.
>

I'd actually like to see Gentoo evolve until we reach a point where
this sort of thing is easy to do safely.  Right now @system is a
mish-mash of a bunch of stuff and it is hard to pick out stuff like
openssh which is trivially removable from stuff like openrc which has
surprising reverse deps from stuff like glibc which obviously isn't
going anywhere anytime soon.

I'd really like to see a few virtuals created (perhaps nesting) that
chop this up into categories like recommend-default packages, stuff
required for POSIX, and so on.  We can still give users a good default
experience, and we can still avoid having ebuilds having to list out a
laundry-list of deps, but we can also do things like allow more
parallel-building and make it easier to remove stuff.

-- 
Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-23 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 20:15 [gentoo-amd64] Systemd migration: opinion and questions Marc Joliet
2015-02-24 20:41 ` Randy Barlow
2015-02-24 23:11   ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 22:42     ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-27 22:29       ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-24 21:44 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-25  7:50   ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 12:01     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-25 18:25       ` Marc Joliet
2015-03-01 12:48         ` Marc Joliet
2015-03-01 13:34           ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-01 18:20             ` Marc Joliet
2015-03-01 19:13               ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-02  5:13                 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2015-03-14 14:01                   ` Marc Joliet
2015-03-14 12:57                 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Marc Joliet
2015-03-14 13:02               ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 10:13   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2015-02-25 12:13     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-26  0:35       ` Duncan
2015-02-25 18:56     ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-26  1:55       ` Duncan
2015-02-24 21:51 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Frank Peters
2015-02-25 14:31   ` Michael Mattes
2015-02-25 20:28   ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 10:15 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2015-02-25 10:33 ` Duncan
2015-02-25 19:17   ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 19:31     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-25 19:54       ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-25 22:30 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Marc Joliet
2015-05-20  8:01 ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-20 10:44   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2015-05-20 11:22     ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-21  9:36       ` Duncan
2015-05-21 11:33         ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-23  8:49         ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-23  9:32           ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-23 10:41           ` Duncan
2015-05-23 11:11             ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-23 11:37               ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-05-23 12:02                 ` Duncan
2015-05-23 18:07               ` Marc Joliet
2015-05-23  8:17       ` Duncan
2015-05-23 12:14         ` Duncan
2015-05-21 11:29     ` Marc Joliet
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-25 11:04 Duncan

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