From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-amd64+bounces-13602-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE10F13877A for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2CCDE09D0; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB92EE07D9 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ij19so26084vcb.9 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1ajONh1BC9X/I9ertmmenU+qzL2utQs9/apn8PVKbDA=; b=XoiVRPUGINWd3ZearoyLyeDyNjdHnUuk826jfHcmaujPtOfSGU5cdgUFsHrATuJDRr CS+a0I/Krjzr/WX1Bh7i90K/nxL2DUM0gNQaiZV7pqq92lw0CDVNlUApDfldI72PYUTJ r3ye+hcKbxQGr+XB26gXX+/+vqZ3MK2M/y1C8ulKBcC2E6wBZ/7HdJHi8c57g67y9g3a 2fSzUK4viydXnjr3Qb6jzH0BTU/qFESoTOVUSf7+x+eUonn9gZZjydTMBaH3KQc4PdZe unbZhpjkGWWTOoRVbMYORzgY9zFXJrGm/KLapFn3NZLFXJyx86d8iKHHCUwDkFCxnRcU 7s+g== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-amd64.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.182.5 with SMTP id ca5mr196902vcb.50.1403045244130; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.30.227 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140617144711.b36579361819d4520bcfbfa4@comcast.net> References: <20140616201859.08fe8a30e168efbd42071331@comcast.net> <pan$228d7$9e7927df$1012324f$9cf4baee@cox.net> <20140617090434.808f07dc8de711afefc8e1d1@comcast.net> <CAGK8UzBS+T-U4FfgXphmYbXLGHo-GW_zmZBOs1J1STmZWoUm3A@mail.gmail.com> <53A07500.1090804@googlemail.com> <20140617144711.b36579361819d4520bcfbfa4@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:47:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KzPr0Fq4yoUslE0IDYzcTo3Gk14 Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=BEPTw=77wpX0D40YFFK0PLVyPS-SMgUq0a5UAknEC8A@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Disable SPP On GCC-4.8.3 From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: dcc8ccb2-874e-417c-9b5a-e7bd351442be X-Archives-Hash: a8fccfce89e6449fc2c6b3e8eec72683 On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@comcast.net> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:04:00 +0200 > Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> nossp seems to disable ssp on general. Still not >> a good idea. >> > > I appreciate your concern but, all too often it seems, the notion > of "not a good idea" becomes "not a good idea therefore it should > be irrevocably disabled for everyone whether they want it or not." > Usually use flags that are discouraged are intended mainly to solve limitations in how we express dependencies/etc. It isn't that we don't want users to use them, but more that in the future we might change how they work and they could go away, causing trouble for those who depend on them. Think of them as unintentionally-exposed private interfaces. If there is something you want to do and there isn't a supported way to do it, feel free to discuss/ suggest/ beg/ etc. But, if you're told that doing something in a particular way isn't a good idea, be sure you understand why before you do it anyway. :) Rich