From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B17F13873B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 18:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 811ECE0B23; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 18:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED84E0AF9 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id gf5so4000698lab.21 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aNAbFUl/D5T8Dlm2l1ZIR71eig00c8/RNuMuBN3T7bU=; b=ded6dgfotKJ7D4llVG1PRw9/veMmPmbjKI4CFU6vbhpfHvNpLApBVoI8CzxD4+wF3W aNrJ6sVfFy1HqGJ+rc7B8WU+nnxkE1uQ7aeGOuViR/fsJ0IPcqV67+lgCpWte7cnwl8O 3kAyebFJnvHUaskeiNLQ5taye0YCoOTqj7P6Uha287xxS3KIWpudCyxIBH8tnIZpcVRK Qh6SmOLF1QNXj+yHulT2hZ66ViDvuzgIPLmBUWzLkXiydEoo8DxycQ0OMGCTNGtxlcjw UPzy8kfnq0+cp+1w/jzzuC4t1K1YIRggQ5LolrNOI6LDO9gRF4fG3sCdyHdrLslMpIf8 PiZg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.42.129 with SMTP id o1mr20308844lal.19.1393785486858; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.36 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 12:38:06 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things... From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 847f0ef5-41d2-4fa0-a559-d21b9040fb8f X-Archives-Hash: cedc9fc626ec58cc1c84b51f4b125653 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi Canek - good to hear from you. Hi. [snip] > So as an end user type I'm a little confused by this part of your > response. When you say udev is 'part of systemd' do you mean at the > project level? That's what I understand from your longer response > below. Yeah, udev is part of systemd: [1]. [snip] > Good to know and I've already read a little more about it and enabled > it in my kernel. Good. [snip] > Humm. OK, so I've updated my main spinning rust kernel for FHANDLE. No > problems there. sysvinit/OpenRC/udev. All good. Good. > As I write this I'm in my SSD backup Gentoo install. I haven't used it > in awhile so I'm emerging 668 packages. System setup as above but > maybe I'll consider switching this one to systemd just as a trial. At > this time it's not important on my personal machines. However my 86 > year old father is the last Gnome holdout in the family. I've not > updated his box in quite awhile (cognitive issues, fewer GUI changes > are better for him) However if I do update then it will likely be > Gnome so having at least a little experience with systemd might be > good. If your father is still using GNOME 2, GNOME 3 could be almost traumatic. Perhaps you could try MATE? It's going into the tree soon, i believe. Or Xfce. [snip] > Done, no noticeable impact after 20 minutes. All good. Good. [snip] > Again, THANKS for a wonderful response with lots of good information. > We're lucky to have you as one of the long-time Gentoo guys. I for one > greatly appreciate what little I understand. :-) Thank you. Regards. [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico