From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SB61s-0003pU-4P for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B677DE0921 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB7AE0A94 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenq2 with SMTP id q2so3247543yen.40 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:50:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dCeMECP8sbaXRcqqAEKVljlxqd1MQLmpr2YX9+mWliw=; b=GbxoQgCywL4DlmL/HCxr5zkoJNhZGcYVt6A5IP4PAl66MW+Ex8uohKreE3zNi5+OQj XarswE61+YR2KDvCYnmRHN5c66j2Dae4Eh/oqeL0Xa3C5KFVLwbqyuKKdJDyimfMbB/N cH/7Xwn39hIuLmialSrPhKMIN2nIS/zS+j5THLcjSDamyLsvMw+AslRlJ6hxEsuPBn9T VoszRV3p+NbtbZlVSQDdNxN4RvL57TJbEgqngy7f48yX8xui52GM6Zgvuyi+f2LEz+uu 6DkpWLQ3du5myLM1G5x3/TUToWfdp1NocfSXMiU5iC4jYKfX6PLDjv3SDz3yXZSP8U0l TQmQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.0.196 with SMTP id 4mr14640898oeg.0.1332510635890; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.67.33 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:50:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120319121229.0a9ecd3b.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322144131.5f02745a.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322213254.GA26298@crud> <20120322232829.GA30952@crud> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:50:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Outside of portage (was Re: [gentoo-amd64] Kernel-3.3.0 and Nvidia-drivers) From: Harry Holt To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1edea1c987a04bbe94fb9 X-Archives-Salt: 98c321de-5974-4359-a5d6-b857e813883f X-Archives-Hash: fc67fa49173fc68af527451ec62a9a18 --e89a8fb1edea1c987a04bbe94fb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Den 2012-03-23 00:33, Harry Holt skrev: > >> The only thing I use outside of Portage is Tomcat. Because Im a >> >> webapp developer and the Portage package is a big, steaming PITA. >> > > suggestions go into bugs.g.o > > Been there, done that. Nothing changes, or is really even properly acknowledged. For example bug 282071 ( https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282071) was closed as a duplicate, even though it's about ROOT and manager, not about "Examples". The so-called duplicate 283273 (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283273) is nearly 3 years old with no resolution, or even work-around. Not even the nearly-as-old bugs submitted to at least document the brokenness are resolved (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277688). The thing simply has tons of issues that require major pain to work around: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-713224-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-874051-highlight-tomcat.html http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-886428-highlight-tomcat.html I doubt there are many people that use it, since it's so much easier just to download the package from Apache.org and drop it in /opt, and it just works. I get that there are issues with the Tomcat up-stream, but it doesn't change the fact that it takes hours to get it working, and updates often break the work done to get things properly in place. > > Sorry about the top-post. Gmail on Android. >> > > stop using it so, it works for your ebuilds, why not here ? > Because the benefits outweigh any issues - unlike the Portage Tomcat package, which is pretty much unusable. Thx... HH --e89a8fb1edea1c987a04bbe94fb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Benny Peder= sen <me@junc.org>= ; wrote:
Den 2012-03-23 00:33, Harry Holt skrev:
The only thing I use outside of Portage is Tomcat.=A0 Because Im a

webapp developer and the Portage package is a big, steaming PITA.

suggestions go into bugs.g.o

<= br>Been there, done that.=A0 Nothing changes, or is really even properly ac= knowledged.=A0 For example bug 282071 (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282071) was closed as a duplicate, even though it's about ROOT and manager,= not about "Examples".=A0 The so-called duplicate 283273 (https://bugs.gentoo.o= rg/show_bug.cgi?id=3D283273) is nearly 3 years old with no resolution, = or even work-around.=A0

Not even the nearly-as-old bugs submitted to at least document the brok= enness are resolved (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277688).=A0

Th= e thing simply has tons of issues that require major pain to work around:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-7132= 24-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html

http://fo= rums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-874051-highlight-tomcat.html

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-886428-highlight-tomcat.html


I doubt there are many people that use it, since it's so m= uch easier just to download the package from Apache.org and drop it in /opt= , and it just works.

I get that there are issues with the Tomcat up-stream, but it doesn'= ;t change the fact that it takes hours to get it working, and updates often= break the work done to get things properly in place.

=A0

Sorry about the top-post.=A0 Gmail on Android.

stop using it so, it works for your ebuilds, why not here ?

Because the benefits outweigh any issues - unlike th= e Portage Tomcat package, which is pretty much unusable.

Thx... HH
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