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From: Harry Holt <harryholt@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 12:37:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6M6F3AF9XjF67nXGfLqdkqp6S_ZdrRvsUjX++@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D0105C3.4010401@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Frank Peters wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 +0000 (UTC)
>> Duncan<1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Stan Sander wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32
>>>>> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute
>>>>> grub at all.  It's under file formats / Emulations in the menu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I think that's covered in the handbook, now, but posting's still good,
>>> just in case it would have been overlooked.  FWIW when I first switched
>>> to
>>> no-multilib, before I did the 32-bit chroot thing, I tried turning off
>>> that option in the kernel... and found I couldn't run... I think it was
>>> lilo I was running at the time, properly, so it's definitely worth
>>> remembering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Lilo doesn't need the kernel at all.  I have IA32 turned off and I use
>> lilo to boot.  There is no problem.
>>
>> Unless there is some special requirement, most people probably use grub
>> because of the "follow the leader" syndrome.  Lilo is still quite
>> effective
>> and also quite simple.  Fortunately, the Gentoo overlords have not removed
>> lilo from the portage tree, but if they ever do, I will just compile it
>> myself.  Continuous change is not a law of the universe.  Some methods
>> never become obsolete (out of fashion perhaps, but fashion should never
>> be the final guide).
>>
>> Frank Peters
>>
>>
>>
>
> No offense intended but I have used both lilo and grub.  I used lilo first
> and for me, it was a nightmare.  Fixing even a small typo was painful for
> me.  I switched to grub and the difference was like flying the space shuttle
> or riding a tri-cycle.  Let's remove the computers from the space shuttle
> just to make it as difficult.
>
> I may have to use lilo one day but grub will be long dead and will not
> compile on any rig I have.
>
> Dale
>
>
Good analogy.  My issue with grub is that when it fails, I'm stuck in a tin
can in low earth orbit and likely to burn up in the atmosphere.

Recovering from a fall off my tri-cycle is not nearly as painful.



> :-)  :-)
>
>

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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08 21:17 [gentoo-amd64] About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted Dale
2010-12-08 22:23 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09  0:04   ` Dale
2010-12-09  2:13     ` Stan Sander
2010-12-09  4:51       ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  5:32         ` Dale
2010-12-09  7:42           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:28             ` Dale
2010-12-09 19:55               ` Duncan
2010-12-09  5:13       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09  8:53         ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 10:04         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 15:19           ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:37             ` Dale
2010-12-09 17:37               ` Harry Holt [this message]
2010-12-09 18:40                 ` Dale
2010-12-09 16:39           ` Dale
2010-12-09 15:22         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stan Sander
2010-12-09 16:42           ` Dale
2010-12-09  8:48   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 15:48     ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:09       ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-08 22:58 ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09  0:08   ` Dale
2010-12-08 23:03 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  0:26   ` Dale
2010-12-09  1:13     ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09  5:29       ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:48         ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:43           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:47             ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:58           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Paul Jewell
2010-12-09 14:09             ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09 15:13               ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09 16:53                 ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:22                   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 14:52             ` [gentoo-amd64] " J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 16:55               ` Dale
2010-12-09 18:03                 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-10 12:34                 ` Alex Alexander
2010-12-11  2:12                   ` Dale
2010-12-09 15:27             ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:26               ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 17:04               ` Lie Ryan
2010-12-09 19:01                 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:09                   ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09  1:17     ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09  1:54     ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  4:41       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09  5:18       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09  6:55         ` Thomas M
2010-12-09  7:26           ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:36         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09  4:13     ` Duncan
2010-12-09  6:11       ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:10         ` Duncan
2010-12-09 15:36         ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:05           ` Duncan
2010-12-09 23:22             ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:54       ` Thanasis
2010-12-10 22:48         ` Duncan
2010-12-09  2:27 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Alex Schuster
2010-12-09  5:21   ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:33     ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 10:12       ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:18         ` Duncan
2010-12-09 17:03           ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:33             ` Duncan
2010-12-09 21:45               ` Alex Schuster
2010-12-09 23:28                 ` Dale
2010-12-10 11:59                   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-10 13:16                     ` Dale
2010-12-09 10:06   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stefan G. Weichinger

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