From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H0hXR-0004jL-QJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:58:30 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kBUGucWq009088; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:56:38 GMT Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBUGucI1017195 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:56:38 GMT Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z38so4548368ugc for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:56:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bJI//6qfnEMIQbYYWv7msSDM7lpI2CI2E4MONI4xT3UpyPEQnHFT+s7jXtSlV91HOCxQzviNI6OMtXPImij16v5jpbIjsGzGkz0+UNhFHZFQLiCxI9gq2OlnIJKJ+ct6Ve9IjGJA3FtrG3PkgOapNAcUWoPwlFTl3TgQoCmL8ZE= Received: by 10.78.149.15 with SMTP id w15mr1412127hud.1167497798062; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.170.10 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:56:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c8072a00612300856q2d1de876qc05f146b1a38a632@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:56:38 -0500 From: "Harry Holt" To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Browsing speed problems - possibly flash related In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_153011_25825764.1167497798027" References: <5bdc1c8b0612280801j6c3b1591h3dfb4795186bf527@mail.gmail.com> <200612281559.21743.bss03@volumehost.net> <7a329d910612290531k37a7e5d7p9c79dcf010f718f6@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0612291445h1c927ecag3cfdf19f134a6e28@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 8449fc99-9cf3-43ba-a668-e545f1c6c387 X-Archives-Hash: 1bb0adc8c5b8ee5193b2ed33215c5eb6 ------=_Part_153011_25825764.1167497798027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's probably not java (as in the java VM on the machine), but javascript in the browser. I have noticed that firefox's javascript is noticably slower on linux than on windows (both 64-bit and 32). Check out for example digg.com (a site that makes extensive use of javascript). There is a noticeable performance difference. ... HH On 12/29/06, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > "Mark Knecht" posted > 5bdc1c8b0612291445h1c927ecag3cfdf19f134a6e28@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800: > > > Note that if this was just Flash on the front page it would be no > > big deal. However I think there may be additional issues around the > speed > > of Java once you log in and get inside the web site. That is what really > > matters and it's very slow on this machine. > > What Java are you using? When I switched to Gentoo I decided I didn't > need Java enough to override its being proprietary, so I don't have it > installed here and haven't had it installed on Gentoo at all. However, > back on Mandrake, I noticed Java was /dreadfully/ slow at times on Linux. > IIRC, I was using kaffe JVM at that time and attributed it to that, but I > was trying to run broadbandreports.com's Java based speedtest applet, and > it was simply too slow executing to produce anything even /close/ to > reliable results. > > So it may be the JVM or something Java related, rather than flash or > whatever. > > Happily, now that Sun is GPLing Java, I should be able to merge a decent > and freedom software based Java one of these days. I'm looking forward > to it! =8^) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > -- > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Harry Holt, PMP ------=_Part_153011_25825764.1167497798027 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's probably not java (as in the java VM on the machine), but javascript in the browser.  I have noticed that firefox's javascript is noticably slower on linux than on windows (both 64-bit and 32).  Check out for example digg.com (a site that makes extensive use of javascript).  There is a noticeable performance difference. 

... HH

On 12/29/06, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> posted
5bdc1c8b0612291445h1c927ecag3cfdf19f134a6e28@mail.gmail.com , excerpted
below, on  Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800:

>    Note that if this was just Flash on the front page it would be no
> big deal. However I think there may be additional issues around the speed
> of Java once you log in and get inside the web site. That is what really
> matters and it's very slow on this machine.

What Java are you using?  When I switched to Gentoo I decided I didn't
need Java enough to override its being proprietary, so I don't have it
installed here and haven't had it installed on Gentoo at all.  However,
back on Mandrake, I noticed Java was /dreadfully/ slow at times on Linux.
IIRC, I was using kaffe JVM at that time and attributed it to that, but I
was trying to run broadbandreports.com's Java based speedtest applet, and
it was simply too slow executing to produce anything even /close/ to
reliable results.

So it may be the JVM or something Java related, rather than flash or
whatever.

Happily, now that Sun is GPLing Java, I should be able to merge a decent
and freedom software based Java one of these days. I'm looking forward
to it!  =8^)

--
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

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