From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnK3r-0001iP-05 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:02:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95AA9E0D54 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD971E0BF9 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so1803229pwi.40 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:23:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sVczEXSksDvxjLi1pJzhUkRJA2yPUKTyxxL4uQroYqo=; b=Dq6+x7pUTj2bYrpG43hE/AslH7PDOpD3ty2IKzEdYdwzi4B22U6jkq1lnWqNLcBwy5 inafuNx9PVNiSZv2lyLvhQ08Jvsg/afDBexWdzYTuLGNPJQFek75IjVIFJY/5Dw6AJMu 0D/tfT9Cl7wlE4oe8NkkZ7znL+my6y+ZoPk+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oMQ2WxwwmR534/EvDokbkwYsZRlMfllTAqjbBbyFAJJKeEOeGKicLPlhDSf0Wfl0+I MoJatysaCYsJUln7i1MNBtpiXX/LIB9KKKbW/HB3qKB2xlc70m1Raw9NCcEntdgb/Cpe Zay4BOV+672LEdGCTawIs8ZnkTodnjkGE2rc4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.60.17 with SMTP id i17mr8321wfa.275.1267741421297; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:23:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <58965d8a1003041113y475d133ag2071933278e55f4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b1003041022m56127645xc0b7bed58fad20dd@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a1003041113y475d133ag2071933278e55f4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:23:41 -0800 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b1003041423x2ac314e4t6c5519591720e344@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Where is '@system'? From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: bdbbe4d1-96fb-4770-817d-29f13dc3f87f X-Archives-Hash: edc6733abbea92bf02e7c6c8d783aca5 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> I would like emerge -epv @system to be a fairly contained set of >> packages. (If possible like it was when I first built the system a >> mere 5 weeks ago...) It seems out of control on my system these days >> as it wants to emerge 242 packages. One major contributor is not using >> a global -cups use flag in make.conf which would reduce it to 178. >> That was added to figure out why Gnome didn't see Sups printers at >> all. Sure, I would then have to turn on cups for certain packages but >> that's OK with me. However I still see cairo, icedtea-bin, virtual >> java stuff, alsa-libs, and a bunch of x11-proto files so it doesn't >> feel like @system stuff to me >> >> 1) Where is the 'system' or '@system' specification on my machine? >> >> 2) If you folks run emerge -epv @system then how machine packages do you see? > > I believe it all depends on the profile you're using. If you're using > a desktop profile maybe that's why it's calling in GUI toolkits and > stuff... > Thanks Paul. I hadn't thought of that and I think you're correct. I played a bit with changing profiles and then looking at what emerge -epv @system would or would not do. It's clearly related. In the end I wonder if this is a lost cause? If the packages I run really require these flags then they are all going to get built the same way. I'd prefer that @system was simple and that @world showed how I had changed the system to meet my needs, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort at this point to get there. Cheers, Mark