[gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Gerhard Erker 1]

Hello
I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
found help in Google.
Can anyone help me?
My configuration:
Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
Two SATA harddisks
Nvidia Geforce 9600 
4 GB Memory

If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
know. 

Thanks in advance for your help


Gerhard Erker

p.s.:Excuse my english

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Chris Faulkner]

Make sure in your BIOS to have Legacy USB and USB Keyboard and Mouse Enabled

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> Hello
> I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
> wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
> I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
> Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
> boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
> the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
> write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
> Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
> My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
> found help in Google.
> Can anyone help me?
> My configuration:
> Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
> Two SATA harddisks
> Nvidia Geforce 9600
> 4 GB Memory
>
> If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
>
> Gerhard Erker
>
> p.s.:Excuse my english
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Gerhard Erker 1]

This was the first idea, when i googled. Legacy usb-support is on, the
bios says "1 keyboard, 2 hubs". Has anyone the same problem?
At the moment I have Suse 11.1 installed, and the keyboard is working.
Thanks in advance

Gerhard Erker


Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:21 -0500 schrieb Chris Faulkner:
> Make sure in your BIOS to have Legacy USB and USB Keyboard and Mouse Enabled
> 
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> > Hello
> > I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
> > wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
> > I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
> > Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
> > boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
> > the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
> > write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
> > Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
> > My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
> > found help in Google.
> > Can anyone help me?
> > My configuration:
> > Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
> > Two SATA harddisks
> > Nvidia Geforce 9600
> > 4 GB Memory
> >
> > If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
> > know.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help
> >
> >
> > Gerhard Erker
> >
> > p.s.:Excuse my english
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> This was the first idea, when i googled. Legacy usb-support is on, the
> bios says "1 keyboard, 2 hubs". Has anyone the same problem?
> At the moment I have Suse 11.1 installed, and the keyboard is working.
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gerhard Erker
>
>
> Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:21 -0500 schrieb Chris Faulkner:
>> Make sure in your BIOS to have Legacy USB and USB Keyboard and Mouse Enabled
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
>> > Hello
>> > I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
>> > wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
>> > I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
>> > Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
>> > boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
>> > the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
>> > write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
>> > Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
>> > My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
>> > found help in Google.
>> > Can anyone help me?
>> > My configuration:
>> > Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
>> > Two SATA harddisks
>> > Nvidia Geforce 9600
>> > 4 GB Memory
>> >
>> > If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
>> > know.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help
>> >
>> >
>> > Gerhard Erker
>> >
>> > p.s.:Excuse my english

Hi Gerhard,
   There's nothing wrong with your English and it's far better than my German!

   I'm not clear whether you cannot use the keyboard at all, or
whether it's not there when you've finished booting? When you first
start booting the AMD64 install CD there's a point where you can
choose the kernel you want to boot. The options there allow you to
look at hardware options. Are you saying the USB keyboard worked at
this point, you could hit F1, F2, F3, etc. and it worked, but then
failed to work after the kernel was done booting?

   I personally thought doscsi was mainly aimed at booting from scsi
and USB drives and not for enabling keyboards, etc., so you might try
it both ways. I see other options you might try:

nolapic
nosmp
slowusb
scandelay

   Unfortunately you really didn't provide the portion of your
configuration that is most likely going to be the issue which is your
chipset.

   It may be that you need a BIOS update to get full support for USB
keyboards. My son has an Asus MB with an Intel Quad-Core and we never
managed to install win XP with the USB keyboard. We did the install
with a PS2 keyboard and then shifted over to USB when it was done. On
the other hand I've got some older x86 machines that installed just
fine with USB.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Gerhard Erker 1]

Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 13:18 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> > This was the first idea, when i googled. Legacy usb-support is on, the
> > bios says "1 keyboard, 2 hubs". Has anyone the same problem?
> > At the moment I have Suse 11.1 installed, and the keyboard is working.
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Gerhard Erker
> >
> >
> > Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:21 -0500 schrieb Chris Faulkner:
> >> Make sure in your BIOS to have Legacy USB and USB Keyboard and Mouse Enabled
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> >> > Hello
> >> > I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
> >> > wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
> >> > I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
> >> > Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
> >> > boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
> >> > the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
> >> > write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
> >> > Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
> >> > My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
> >> > found help in Google.
> >> > Can anyone help me?
> >> > My configuration:
> >> > Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
> >> > Two SATA harddisks
> >> > Nvidia Geforce 9600
> >> > 4 GB Memory
> >> >
> >> > If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
> >> > know.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your help
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gerhard Erker
> >> >
> >> > p.s.:Excuse my english
> 
> Hi Gerhard,
>    There's nothing wrong with your English and it's far better than my German!
> 
>    I'm not clear whether you cannot use the keyboard at all, or
> whether it's not there when you've finished booting? When you first
> start booting the AMD64 install CD there's a point where you can
> choose the kernel you want to boot. The options there allow you to
> look at hardware options. Are you saying the USB keyboard worked at
> this point, you could hit F1, F2, F3, etc. and it worked, but then
> failed to work after the kernel was done booting?
> 
>    I personally thought doscsi was mainly aimed at booting from scsi
> and USB drives and not for enabling keyboards, etc., so you might try
> it both ways. I see other options you might try:
> 
> nolapic
> nosmp
> slowusb
> scandelay
> 
>    Unfortunately you really didn't provide the portion of your
> configuration that is most likely going to be the issue which is your
> chipset.
> 
>    It may be that you need a BIOS update to get full support for USB
> keyboards. My son has an Asus MB with an Intel Quad-Core and we never
> managed to install win XP with the USB keyboard. We did the install
> with a PS2 keyboard and then shifted over to USB when it was done. On
> the other hand I've got some older x86 machines that installed just
> fine with USB.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 

Hello Mark,

I can use the keyboard when the first message is there. So I can use the
hardware options. When the gentoo-kernel is booting, i have no keyboard.
I used doscsi because the handbook says that this option is used to boot
the most usb-devices, because they use the scsi subsystem of the kernel.
I tried it both ways. 
Other configuration:

ASUS Mainboard, Socket 775 Intel G31 Chipset
Networkcard on board Attansic Gigabit ethernet
Audio Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition


I cannot understand why my keyboard not works. It works not only on an
desktop or with windows. It also worked, when I was in console mode, or
when I worked in the repair mode of windows xp installation cd. It works
also when I change options in bios.
I will try with the options you suggested.
I think, my last options will be to plug in my old ps2-keyboard for
install and after install try to use my keyboard. I have a working
system so it is not so important to bring gentoo in a short time to
work.
Many thanks for your help. I would be glad to hear more ideas

Bye

Gerhard Erker

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Lance Lassetter]

On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 06:46 +0200, Gerhard Erker 1 wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 13:18 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> > > This was the first idea, when i googled. Legacy usb-support is on, the
> > > bios says "1 keyboard, 2 hubs". Has anyone the same problem?
> > > At the moment I have Suse 11.1 installed, and the keyboard is working.
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Gerhard Erker
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2009, 14:21 -0500 schrieb Chris Faulkner:
> > >> Make sure in your BIOS to have Legacy USB and USB Keyboard and Mouse Enabled
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> > >> > Hello
> > >> > I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
> > >> > wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
> > >> > I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
> > >> > Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
> > >> > boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
> > >> > the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
> > >> > write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
> > >> > Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
> > >> > My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
> > >> > found help in Google.
> > >> > Can anyone help me?
> > >> > My configuration:
> > >> > Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4GHZ
> > >> > Two SATA harddisks
> > >> > Nvidia Geforce 9600
> > >> > 4 GB Memory
> > >> >
> > >> > If some of you have questions about configuration ... please let me
> > >> > know.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance for your help
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Gerhard Erker
> > >> >
> > >> > p.s.:Excuse my english
> > 
> > Hi Gerhard,
> >    There's nothing wrong with your English and it's far better than my German!
> > 
> >    I'm not clear whether you cannot use the keyboard at all, or
> > whether it's not there when you've finished booting? When you first
> > start booting the AMD64 install CD there's a point where you can
> > choose the kernel you want to boot. The options there allow you to
> > look at hardware options. Are you saying the USB keyboard worked at
> > this point, you could hit F1, F2, F3, etc. and it worked, but then
> > failed to work after the kernel was done booting?
> > 
> >    I personally thought doscsi was mainly aimed at booting from scsi
> > and USB drives and not for enabling keyboards, etc., so you might try
> > it both ways. I see other options you might try:
> > 
> > nolapic
> > nosmp
> > slowusb
> > scandelay
> > 
> >    Unfortunately you really didn't provide the portion of your
> > configuration that is most likely going to be the issue which is your
> > chipset.
> > 
> >    It may be that you need a BIOS update to get full support for USB
> > keyboards. My son has an Asus MB with an Intel Quad-Core and we never
> > managed to install win XP with the USB keyboard. We did the install
> > with a PS2 keyboard and then shifted over to USB when it was done. On
> > the other hand I've got some older x86 machines that installed just
> > fine with USB.
> > 
> > - Mark
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I can use the keyboard when the first message is there. So I can use the
> hardware options. When the gentoo-kernel is booting, i have no keyboard.
> I used doscsi because the handbook says that this option is used to boot
> the most usb-devices, because they use the scsi subsystem of the kernel.
> I tried it both ways. 
> Other configuration:
> 
> ASUS Mainboard, Socket 775 Intel G31 Chipset
> Networkcard on board Attansic Gigabit ethernet
> Audio Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition
> 
> 
> I cannot understand why my keyboard not works. It works not only on an
> desktop or with windows. It also worked, when I was in console mode, or
> when I worked in the repair mode of windows xp installation cd. It works
> also when I change options in bios.
> I will try with the options you suggested.
> I think, my last options will be to plug in my old ps2-keyboard for
> install and after install try to use my keyboard. I have a working
> system so it is not so important to bring gentoo in a short time to
> work.
> Many thanks for your help. I would be glad to hear more ideas
> 
> Bye
> 
> Gerhard Erker
> 
> 

Gerhard,

Have you tried enabling evdev in make.conf under INPUT_DEVICES?

i.e. in make.conf:

INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"

Lance

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[lists-kyle]

On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:15:42PM +0200, Gerhard Erker 1 wrote:
> Hello
> I have a Microsoft wireless Laser Keyboard 6000 V2.0 and the Microsoft
> wireless Laser Mouse 6000.
> I tried to install Gentoo for AMD64 from the minimal installation cd.
> Unfortunately, when I booted, my keyboard was not recognized. I tried to
> boot with the hardware-option "doscsi", but it worked not. I saw that
> the "Num Lock" light is on when I switch on the computer. I can also
> write Boot-Options. When booting the gentoo-kernel for installation,
> Num-Lock switches off and my keyboard will not work.
> My Keyboard works on all Linux- and windows installations. Also I don't
> found help in Google.

Have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting your keyboard or hub once 
the kernel has booted?  I've got my mouse and keyboard connected through 
a hub, and it always works in the BIOS and bootloader, but after Linux 
boots, sometimes my mouse and keyboard don't work.  Reconnecting the hub 
makes everything work.
This only seems to happen on one system (VIA K8T800 based motherboard.)

[gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Gerhard Erker 1]

Hello list,

Many thanks for your help. I resolved the problem by installing gentoo
not with the installation-cd. I installed the basic gentoo system from
my suse installation. 

Thanks a lot for your help.

Gerhard Erker

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Lance Lassetter<lancelassetter@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> Gerhard,
>
> Have you tried enabling evdev in make.conf under INPUT_DEVICES?
>
> i.e. in make.conf:
>
> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"
>
> Lance
>

???

How could he do this when he's trying to boot from an install CD?

???

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
<SNIP>
>>
>>    Unfortunately you really didn't provide the portion of your
>> configuration that is most likely going to be the issue which is your
>> chipset.
>>
>>    It may be that you need a BIOS update to get full support for USB
>> keyboards. My son has an Asus MB with an Intel Quad-Core and we never
>> managed to install win XP with the USB keyboard. We did the install
>> with a PS2 keyboard and then shifted over to USB when it was done. On
>> the other hand I've got some older x86 machines that installed just
>> fine with USB.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>>
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> I can use the keyboard when the first message is there. So I can use the
> hardware options. When the gentoo-kernel is booting, i have no keyboard.
> I used doscsi because the handbook says that this option is used to boot
> the most usb-devices, because they use the scsi subsystem of the kernel.
> I tried it both ways.
> Other configuration:
>
> ASUS Mainboard, Socket 775 Intel G31 Chipset
> Networkcard on board Attansic Gigabit ethernet
> Audio Realtek ALC662 6-Channel High Definition
>
>
> I cannot understand why my keyboard not works. It works not only on an
> desktop or with windows. It also worked, when I was in console mode, or
> when I worked in the repair mode of windows xp installation cd. It works
> also when I change options in bios.
> I will try with the options you suggested.
> I think, my last options will be to plug in my old ps2-keyboard for
> install and after install try to use my keyboard. I have a working
> system so it is not so important to bring gentoo in a short time to
> work.
> Many thanks for your help. I would be glad to hear more ideas
>
> Bye
>
> Gerhard Erker

Because you can use the keyboard to select which kernel you want to
boot and which hardware options then it means there is enough
functionality in BIOS to support the USB keyboard. Possibly a BIOS
update might help, but it seems unlikely to me.

My son's motherboard is an Asus also. Using a PS2 keyboard is what we
had to do here also, even for XP.

You should try Kyle's suggestion of hot-plugging your USB keyboard.
Maybe that will wake up USB hardware that somehow the boot process has
put to sleep?

Good luck.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problem with USB-Keyboard at Install

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Gerhard Erker 1<aon.913247124@aon.at> wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Many thanks for your help. I resolved the problem by installing gentoo
> not with the installation-cd. I installed the basic gentoo system from
> my suse installation.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> Gerhard Erker

Good news! Congrats.

Cheers,
Mark