From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MHevy-0005Mt-Sc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99271E0327; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f198.google.com (mail-yx0-f198.google.com [209.85.210.198]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69612E0327 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe36 with SMTP id 36so479448yxe.32 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tvTqRNOAAF4V9ie9atmh5iTPjuP3xJRwNrimZDuSIUE=; b=ZEMq4OO6QUrM6RdDOdttjFAyTJ7BvoMLjHOVQxVrlF+iKmbGN/BnGpm9NjWuyf1/bF 6Zcp4Rh6VXpBxA8gNCsmqdgIQRZTZkzDoGZnB3mXjioqWO18yvxwabjllRq7PalF3I+6 1AM8x3k6HWSyPe2D3PjFG4m0uYeBAwIgfRUZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nYjVxOHPDa1bEHOGmWKa+oUvJReQzMdzpaS7g1/pBzjTFXzwbFGo00uWtk/UrjnnsV Tph04slkRFStNfr7S+Hfg3r9V8plzhQW8lpQ6vZY0iAFu2gRYsPsXzHIKLVjAmUsSqsD 7uVIPUXp/SRuBnjxvq+FxLuScVuRq/rJyoYDE= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.123.13 with SMTP id a13mr5875710ybn.246.1245421151604; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5bdc1c8b0906170553w3b73c15ehd1b8cacaaf52c7c4@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906180959x130bca86yf3bd30364f2f23ab@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181005w7c7fe9e9q5c5f6c404046f392@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181111qc6a119eg8c5c42455ce1b1f5@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181343v1b6b6803iad4fdaaacf9d51d3@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181350i7b24f3d9i636981ef8787ec35@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181424r57363781k882a284157d840fa@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181432t4b9a0cf8hb3652718b0a0188c@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181839r18d3a8c0yfa9d5da993d66b6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:11 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0906190719t15873b54q90194eb512681084@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How do I choose a second window manager? From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 96369cd0-03a7-4f94-92ac-fe9087b87a62 X-Archives-Hash: e8b3727f07b301b7b6266b8454b352f2 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Duncan<1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > Mark Knecht posted > 5bdc1c8b0906181839r18d3a8c0yfa9d5da993d66b6f@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > below, on =C2=A0Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:39:51 -0700: > >> This issue seems to come up occasionally. I'll download some zip file to >> my desktop and use an archive manager to drag a bunch of stuff out. >> Having done that I might delete some audio files but want to keep >> others, or I might want to separate them into different folders based on >> what I'm going to do with them. > > I do something a bit different that should work in your case, but I do it > for a different reason. (I don't like many things on the desktop at all, > if there's more than can be counted on the fingers of one hand, I'm > getting uncomfortable. =C2=A0Thus, while I do use the desktop for individ= ual > files occasionally, that's /all/ I keep there, individual files. =C2=A0BT= W, no > "trash" or other such "system" stuff there either. =C2=A0Well, except for= ...) > > What I hit upon is this: > > 1. =C2=A0In my home dir, I have a "dir" subdir. =C2=A0But it could be cal= led > "links" or "working" or "inbox", or something else of similar nature. > > 2. =C2=A0On my desktop I then keep a single symlink, to ~/dir. =C2=A0(It'= s a > symlink because one time when I used to keep "dir" on the desktop itself, > one time, I accidentally deleted it... and everything in it! =C2=A0Since = the > dir is now elsewhere and all that's on the desktop is a symlink, no big > deal if I do that again, since all it will have deleted is the symlink, > and I can easily recreate /that/. > > 3. =C2=A0Thus, while the desktop itself stays uncluttered, my "dir" aka > "links" or whatever one wishes to call it, dir, is a single-click away. > If I want to work with it, I can open it with a single click, but at the > same time, I don't have to stare at all those ugly icons on the desktop > all the time. > If I'm understanding you correctly this is essentially do now. I have a couple of external 1394 and USB drives that I use to save web-found media as well as customer audio. The model I've used in the past is to decompress a zip file with 200-300 audio files onto my desktop, and once the files are there I would just drag them to different folder links. On Gnome I could grab 20 *.wav files, open a specific USB link, get a folder, create some sub-folder and then simply drag the 20 wave files to the location I want them in. With XFCE I cannot do that - IF - I'm simply looking at the desktop. The files are selected but only the first one selected is deposited at the new location. However if I open a file system browser in XFCE, cd within that browser to my desktop, I then can select and drag multiple files successfully. Like you I don't like a lot of stuff on my desktop. I do keep a few application launcher icons there in Gnome. However I personally like downloads from customers/partners as well as things I download using Firefox to go to my desktop because: 1) If they are on my desktop they will be dealt with immediately, and 2) On all my different systems, both Linux & Windows, the only thing in common by default is the desktop. So, I use the desktop as temporary storage and then clean it up quickly. That's better for me than having downloads go to some obscure place and then be forgotten about. I'll comment on the rest of your post later. I'm busy trying to get a trade on soonish. Cheers, Mark