From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-amd64+bounces-11545-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MHevy-0005Mt-Sc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99271E0327; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f198.google.com (mail-yx0-f198.google.com [209.85.210.198]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69612E0327 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe36 with SMTP id 36so479448yxe.32 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tvTqRNOAAF4V9ie9atmh5iTPjuP3xJRwNrimZDuSIUE=; b=ZEMq4OO6QUrM6RdDOdttjFAyTJ7BvoMLjHOVQxVrlF+iKmbGN/BnGpm9NjWuyf1/bF 6Zcp4Rh6VXpBxA8gNCsmqdgIQRZTZkzDoGZnB3mXjioqWO18yvxwabjllRq7PalF3I+6 1AM8x3k6HWSyPe2D3PjFG4m0uYeBAwIgfRUZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nYjVxOHPDa1bEHOGmWKa+oUvJReQzMdzpaS7g1/pBzjTFXzwbFGo00uWtk/UrjnnsV Tph04slkRFStNfr7S+Hfg3r9V8plzhQW8lpQ6vZY0iAFu2gRYsPsXzHIKLVjAmUsSqsD 7uVIPUXp/SRuBnjxvq+FxLuScVuRq/rJyoYDE= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-amd64.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.123.13 with SMTP id a13mr5875710ybn.246.1245421151604; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <pan.2009.06.19.05.15.32@cox.net> References: <5bdc1c8b0906170553w3b73c15ehd1b8cacaaf52c7c4@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906180959x130bca86yf3bd30364f2f23ab@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181005w7c7fe9e9q5c5f6c404046f392@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181111qc6a119eg8c5c42455ce1b1f5@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181343v1b6b6803iad4fdaaacf9d51d3@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181350i7b24f3d9i636981ef8787ec35@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181424r57363781k882a284157d840fa@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906181432t4b9a0cf8hb3652718b0a0188c@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906181839r18d3a8c0yfa9d5da993d66b6f@mail.gmail.com> <pan.2009.06.19.05.15.32@cox.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:19:11 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0906190719t15873b54q90194eb512681084@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How do I choose a second window manager? From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 96369cd0-03a7-4f94-92ac-fe9087b87a62 X-Archives-Hash: e8b3727f07b301b7b6266b8454b352f2 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Duncan<1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> posted > 5bdc1c8b0906181839r18d3a8c0yfa9d5da993d66b6f@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > below, on =C2=A0Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:39:51 -0700: > >> This issue seems to come up occasionally. I'll download some zip file to >> my desktop and use an archive manager to drag a bunch of stuff out. >> Having done that I might delete some audio files but want to keep >> others, or I might want to separate them into different folders based on >> what I'm going to do with them. > > I do something a bit different that should work in your case, but I do it > for a different reason. (I don't like many things on the desktop at all, > if there's more than can be counted on the fingers of one hand, I'm > getting uncomfortable. =C2=A0Thus, while I do use the desktop for individ= ual > files occasionally, that's /all/ I keep there, individual files. =C2=A0BT= W, no > "trash" or other such "system" stuff there either. =C2=A0Well, except for= ...) > > What I hit upon is this: > > 1. =C2=A0In my home dir, I have a "dir" subdir. =C2=A0But it could be cal= led > "links" or "working" or "inbox", or something else of similar nature. > > 2. =C2=A0On my desktop I then keep a single symlink, to ~/dir. =C2=A0(It'= s a > symlink because one time when I used to keep "dir" on the desktop itself, > one time, I accidentally deleted it... and everything in it! =C2=A0Since = the > dir is now elsewhere and all that's on the desktop is a symlink, no big > deal if I do that again, since all it will have deleted is the symlink, > and I can easily recreate /that/. > > 3. =C2=A0Thus, while the desktop itself stays uncluttered, my "dir" aka > "links" or whatever one wishes to call it, dir, is a single-click away. > If I want to work with it, I can open it with a single click, but at the > same time, I don't have to stare at all those ugly icons on the desktop > all the time. > If I'm understanding you correctly this is essentially do now. I have a couple of external 1394 and USB drives that I use to save web-found media as well as customer audio. The model I've used in the past is to decompress a zip file with 200-300 audio files onto my desktop, and once the files are there I would just drag them to different folder links. On Gnome I could grab 20 *.wav files, open a specific USB link, get a folder, create some sub-folder and then simply drag the 20 wave files to the location I want them in. With XFCE I cannot do that - IF - I'm simply looking at the desktop. The files are selected but only the first one selected is deposited at the new location. However if I open a file system browser in XFCE, cd within that browser to my desktop, I then can select and drag multiple files successfully. Like you I don't like a lot of stuff on my desktop. I do keep a few application launcher icons there in Gnome. However I personally like downloads from customers/partners as well as things I download using Firefox to go to my desktop because: 1) If they are on my desktop they will be dealt with immediately, and 2) On all my different systems, both Linux & Windows, the only thing in common by default is the desktop. So, I use the desktop as temporary storage and then clean it up quickly. That's better for me than having downloads go to some obscure place and then be forgotten about. <SNIP> I'll comment on the rest of your post later. I'm busy trying to get a trade on soonish. Cheers, Mark