From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGxaU-0004jf-MS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:02:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C52CFE052B; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68C5E052B for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1623245gxk.10 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=69wQZnz6XdPjeV+iqrHrw8AeUgkiPyS+tsxFz1Eqopc=; b=acO9QTrbm8YEvPQDXtZh6BBt2d3tIzL/5W5PppMxBh7pZgv7urofRNzR2B2ZizeScF cFco8YqDR1c9eOXuPmUCZM6scOYOqlcMn5ZYEvRjwE2uEiUJqBBZPya2m+5hwuYrPEe7 S/NecADq3xng2/ANSQO4lV2oVFbGo5s8ynjU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jQtCPHOaOZBBesAP4zQtrtjlei7ZERLle9RjaOGqfOmIMBJ3T7+5BF47klogOVAKJd nnZgl2007Cg+NTgO6pbGRyWQGMHe+A4n92b7AK41lj8MLa6S7lVy0WprVP9FDgQ59rwv R1vUL2pNMPkaqhYL89RAviSDH/Fa3kOBxbiPQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.227.4 with SMTP id z4mr1442426ybg.317.1245254527122; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:02:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0906170850l5d9b5363x59d24d596ccaaf70@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0906170553w3b73c15ehd1b8cacaaf52c7c4@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0906170850l5d9b5363x59d24d596ccaaf70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:02:07 -0700 Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0906170902i329df75fi17ae7bfb63a0dcf3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] How do I choose a second window manager? From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d998e7ce-0137-41e0-828d-42754250570c X-Archives-Hash: eebeba49818a4733f501539819b755f4 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> =C2=A0 A discussion on another list made me realize I'm a little tired o= f >> Gnome. It does what I need, mostly, but it feels sort of old and dry. >> I haven't run KDE in years but I'm hesitant to build it and keep it up >> to date. I really think I'd like something more minimalistic. I ran >> fluxbox years ago and liked that it was small and fast but at the time >> getting to apps was a hand-crafted menu editing task that I'd rather >> not repeat today. >> >> =C2=A0 QUESTION: Is there something small, fast but also easy to use in >> terms of the environment automatically creating menus when apps are >> added or removed with emerge? >> >> =C2=A0 From a pure-fun standpoint something 3D might be fun, but I don't >> need it and expect that my old ATI Radeon X300 card probably isn't up >> to the task anyway. >> >> =C2=A0 How do others choose a window manager and what do you value in yo= ur >> window manager that makes you stick with it? > > I use KDE4 and keep XFCE as a backup. I use KDM as login manager and > it easily lets me choose which one I want. I use only XFCE on my > laptop because compiling gnome or KDE is just too much work for it. I > could easily use XFCE (or Gnome) as primary desktop environment and be > happy, but I'm just used to KDE. > > Hi Paul, I do a lot of audio work using apps and a kernel (rt-sources) from the pro-audio overlay. Jack, Ardour, etc. Really low latency and NO long window manager delays are more important for me that they probably are for others. I ran KDE years ago and it just didn't work very well, but in those days even Gnome wasn't very good so I used fluxbox which was great. Well, today Gnome is fine, and maybe KDE would be also. Historically it just wasn't a good fit more me in the past. I guess the other thing that I'm interested in is getting beyond this "flat/old Gnome is sort of like Windows" sensation that I am feeling right now so to warrant the effort to actually use something I suppose I am really looking for something with a really different feel but it still really works in terms of getting jobs done. Something that makes me feel good about even firing up the desktop. Cheers, Mark