From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Je12T-0007KX-AC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:45:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A82BE0468; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FDAE0468 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c48so2096625wra.1 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8Pp8VUI1K65I2gPqJ6y621RTjK3Az10dRyh8z5wQcjc=; b=O1hPwELz4O8KtXKrFF+WnqoNCSMHrMYyUmGWnAw0kyYyb/YfU4GO9Tuk2iu3ihZSkQEOd2GH8F49K0J7QbgtAOHfV9d8bAG6np48a+68WBSiXz8UbZrALaEcj/hH+P/5l2zPmqei0CQu9Ra9mdYHQgY7l5da4spcl107uG4kapY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=leGpZHXCmyxRWYjB/guSEmE3ttAwY3RNb4npqnFNyh1yNINm6b2jYlO863LVM2/L2rXASFBwuqjF8B1sD2SY2rkLPTQ1qtEWui4If48E5hr7+0xQXKk+T++vFfavQkuJCKjFbdoVgrohKlXhfoYS2C+zPpPu+UD750Q9HpY2cvY= Received: by 10.151.112.10 with SMTP id p10mr3709826ybm.143.1206420330723; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.11.2 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0803242145le54b0c9we8ba99a79c5c9f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:30 -0700 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: CUPS now failing with "/usr/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5bdc1c8b0803241625r126ee324k5e96820984d501d3@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0803241822v267dcacl64108b01cf53b3b4@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: eb282508-70c9-4108-a520-9758ab702ce7 X-Archives-Hash: 5851c6dc0988c1aac4ed71743abef094 Hi Duncan On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > "Mark Knecht" posted > 5bdc1c8b0803241822v267dcacl64108b01cf53b3b4@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:22:20 -0700: > > > >> Of course revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild lots and lots of stuff > > I see you solved the original problem, but this bit worries me. > > You used "of course", which makes it sound as if it's "natural" to you to > have revdep-rebuild want to rebuild "lots and lots of stuff". I can > assure you that's NOT the case here, and I don't believe it should EVER > be the NORMAL case on a well maintained Gentoo system. Well, my experience is a bit different than yours. I'm sure the way I maintain my systems, reading between your lines, is almost certainly more lax than you care for. I do an emerge -DuN system in general about once a week, but emerge -DuN world isn't going to happen any more often than once every 6-8 weeks here. I don't have time to deal with the issues that come up with all this stuff to do it more than maybe 5-6 times per year. Even that often is pushing it, but it's about what I do. In general I look at emerge -DuN world once a week and see what's up. Typically I'll take one major app and let everything in its dependency tree get updated, but not the complete system. If I'm lucky, when I do finally get to the emerge -DuN world I've already done a major app, or maybe Gnome, so there isn't all that much to do. While I'm sure we probably have different ideas of 'lots and lots of stuff' I'm pretty clear that it's generally too much for me to deal with in one step. I have work to do here and the machine is busy. My experience with revdep-rebuild is that it wants to build some old things, but then these things have been removed from portage and it cannot, so I have to start looking for solutions. That requires reading and thinking so it gets put on the back burner. The other reason I'll almost NEVER do a real emerge -DuN world is that we use MythTV here. We have 5 machines that run Myth, either as front ends or back ends. Unfortunately, with Myth if you update the server you have to update every machine on the network which causes problems for the family so I don't do it. Now, it's also possible to start masking things to hide some of these issues. I'll do that with something like Myth for 2-3 months, maybe longer, and then finally have to spend a few days updating all the machines. revdep-rebuild today wanted to rebuild 16 apps. To me that's lots and lots. Maybe not to you. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list