[gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

It has been a long time since I've looked at Java on my AMD64 machine.
I run into links, etc., and they don't work. It was frustrating two
years ago. It just didn't work. On my machine still it doesn't, but
maybe this is because I haven't tried to fix it in a long time, so...

Here's a link with some Java on the page:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GaussianFunction.html

I get the typical white box with a jigsaw puzzle piece asking me to
'Click here to download plugin' and then a message about JRE missing.

I currently use Blackdown but notice this 'virtual' JRE is Sun. That
all seems a bit strange.

lightning ~ # eix -I jre
[I] dev-java/blackdown-jre
     Available versions:  (1.4.2)  1.4.2.03-r14
        {nsplugin}
     Installed versions:  1.4.2.03-r14(1.4.2)(01:56:19 AM 06/02/2007)(-nsplugin)
     Homepage:            http://www.blackdown.org
     Description:         Blackdown Java Runtime Environment

[U] virtual/jre
     Available versions:
        (1.4)   1.4.1 1.4.2
        (1.5)   1.5.0
        (1.6)   1.6.0
     Installed versions:  1.5.0(1.5)(10:30:16 PM 06/01/2007)
     Homepage:            http://java.sun.com/
     Description:         Virtual for JRE

Found 2 matches.
lightning ~ #

I thought that before I invested too much time I'd ask if there is
anyone who makes pages like the one above work and what you have
installed.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag, 20. September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> It has been a long time since I've looked at Java on my AMD64 machine.
> I run into links, etc., and they don't work. It was frustrating two
> years ago. It just didn't work. On my machine still it doesn't, but
> maybe this is because I haven't tried to fix it in a long time, so...
>
> Here's a link with some Java on the page:
>
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GaussianFunction.html
>
> I get the typical white box with a jigsaw puzzle piece asking me to
> 'Click here to download plugin' and then a message about JRE missing.

works perfectly fine for me.

>
> I currently use Blackdown but notice this 'virtual' JRE is Sun. That
> all seems a bit strange.

Blackdown sucks. Really. It is bad.

>
>
> I thought that before I invested too much time I'd ask if there is
> anyone who makes pages like the one above work and what you have
> installed.
>

java-config -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)      Blackdown 32bit JRE 1.4.2.03 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.4.2]
2)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
*)      Sun JDK 1.6.0.02 [sun-jdk-1.6]

So I am using the 1.6 jdk from Sun

browser is Konqueror from KDE 3.5.7
No special settings. 
Java enabled in the settings menu.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 20. September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > It has been a long time since I've looked at Java on my AMD64 machine.
> > I run into links, etc., and they don't work. It was frustrating two
> > years ago. It just didn't work. On my machine still it doesn't, but
> > maybe this is because I haven't tried to fix it in a long time, so...
> >
> > Here's a link with some Java on the page:
> >
> > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GaussianFunction.html
> >
> > I get the typical white box with a jigsaw puzzle piece asking me to
> > 'Click here to download plugin' and then a message about JRE missing.
>
> works perfectly fine for me.
>
> >
> > I currently use Blackdown but notice this 'virtual' JRE is Sun. That
> > all seems a bit strange.
>
> Blackdown sucks. Really. It is bad.
>
> >
> >
> > I thought that before I invested too much time I'd ask if there is
> > anyone who makes pages like the one above work and what you have
> > installed.
> >
>
> java-config -L
> The following VMs are available for generation-2:
> 1)      Blackdown 32bit JRE 1.4.2.03 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.4.2]
> 2)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
> 3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
> *)      Sun JDK 1.6.0.02 [sun-jdk-1.6]
>
> So I am using the 1.6 jdk from Sun
>
> browser is Konqueror from KDE 3.5.7
> No special settings.
> Java enabled in the settings menu.
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>
>

I switched before I got your reply to the Sun 32-bit JRE. That failed:

mark@lightning ~ $ java-config -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)      Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2]
*)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
4)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
mark@lightning ~ $

I tried switching both the system VM and my local VM to the
sun-jre-bin but that failed also:

mark@lightning ~ $ java-config -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)      Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2]
2)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
*)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
mark@lightning ~ $

   I notice you are using the JDK, not the JRE. Would it be worth me
installing that?

   I'd love to hear from another Firefox user just to be sure it's not
something to do with the browser since you used Konqueror.

Thanks!

- Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Björn Bredohl]

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Mark Knecht schrieb:
> On 9/20/07, Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
>> On Donnerstag, 20. September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> It has been a long time since I've looked at Java on my AMD64 machine.
>>> I run into links, etc., and they don't work. It was frustrating two
>>> years ago. It just didn't work. On my machine still it doesn't, but
>>> maybe this is because I haven't tried to fix it in a long time, so...
>>>
>>> Here's a link with some Java on the page:
>>>
>>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GaussianFunction.html
>>>
>>> I get the typical white box with a jigsaw puzzle piece asking me to
>>> 'Click here to download plugin' and then a message about JRE missing.
>> works perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>> I currently use Blackdown but notice this 'virtual' JRE is Sun. That
>>> all seems a bit strange.
>> Blackdown sucks. Really. It is bad.
>>
>>>
>>> I thought that before I invested too much time I'd ask if there is
>>> anyone who makes pages like the one above work and what you have
>>> installed.
>>>
>> java-config -L
>> The following VMs are available for generation-2:
>> 1)      Blackdown 32bit JRE 1.4.2.03 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.4.2]
>> 2)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
>> 3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
>> *)      Sun JDK 1.6.0.02 [sun-jdk-1.6]
>>
>> So I am using the 1.6 jdk from Sun
>>
>> browser is Konqueror from KDE 3.5.7
>> No special settings.
>> Java enabled in the settings menu.
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>>
>>
> 
> I switched before I got your reply to the Sun 32-bit JRE. That failed:
> 
> mark@lightning ~ $ java-config -L
> The following VMs are available for generation-2:
> 1)      Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2]
> *)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
> 3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
> 4)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
> mark@lightning ~ $
> 
> I tried switching both the system VM and my local VM to the
> sun-jre-bin but that failed also:
> 
> mark@lightning ~ $ java-config -L
> The following VMs are available for generation-2:
> 1)      Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2]
> 2)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
> 3)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
> *)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
> mark@lightning ~ $
> 
>    I notice you are using the JDK, not the JRE. Would it be worth me
> installing that?
> 
>    I'd love to hear from another Firefox user just to be sure it's not
> something to do with the browser since you used Konqueror.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Mark

Currently there is only a 64 bit java browserplugin in the blackdown
package, and this is unstable! If you want java support in for example
firefox, than you have to use the firefox-bin package (32bit).

To see the available java plugins:

	eselect java-nsplugin list

and here is the thread, why the 64bit java plugin is not in the obove list:
	http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-552110.html

To use the unstable 64bit blackdown java plugin, you have to link the
libjavaplugin_oji.so manually.

- Björn



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Björn Bredohl <bjoern@bredohl.de> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> Currently there is only a 64 bit java browserplugin in the blackdown
> package, and this is unstable! If you want java support in for example
> firefox, than you have to use the firefox-bin package (32bit).
>
> To see the available java plugins:
>
>         eselect java-nsplugin list
>
> and here is the thread, why the 64bit java plugin is not in the obove list:
>         http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-552110.html
>
> To use the unstable 64bit blackdown java plugin, you have to link the
> libjavaplugin_oji.so manually.
>
> - Björn
>

OK, I am busy working so I'll have to read the whole thread later,
maybe tonight. However both the forum thread and your response do
bring up some questions. Thanks!

I have both firefox and firefox-bin installed. Both tell me that the
JRE isn't installed. Using your eselect command it appears that I
don't have a plugin. Am I correct? I Assume I'd see a name under one
of those headings?

lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin show
Current Java browser plugin
  (unset)
lightning ~ #

Indeed, it appears that nsplugin isn't enabled which would be my first
issue to solve. I know I had it turned off at one point when I was
using a chroot to get around this problem but that's far too difficult
to live with on a day-in/day-out basis.

Anyway, how do I get it built to be similar to Volker's sun-jdk-1.6
setup. I cannot seem to get the flag enabled:

lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN sun-jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/tk-8.4.15-r1 [8.4.15] USE="-debug -threads" 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE="X alsa -doc -examples
-jce (-nsplugin)" 0 kB

Total: 2 packages (1 upgrade, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

lightning ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use  | grep sun
dev-java/sun-jre-bin nsplugin
dev-java/sun-jdk nsplugin
lightning ~ #

Thanks,
Mark


Now,
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Sebastian Redl]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> [ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE="X alsa -doc -examples
> -jce (-nsplugin)" 0 kB
>   
The flag is masked. You have to first unmask the flag if you want to
enable it. You should be able to do that in
/etc/portage/package.use.unmask if I understood the thread correctly.

Also, for a 32-bit plugin, you need the emul-x86-java package.

Sebastian Redl
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Sebastian Redl <sebastian.redl@getdesigned.at> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > [ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE="X alsa -doc -examples
> > -jce (-nsplugin)" 0 kB
> >
> The flag is masked. You have to first unmask the flag if you want to
> enable it. You should be able to do that in
> /etc/portage/package.use.unmask if I understood the thread correctly.
>
> Also, for a 32-bit plugin, you need the emul-x86-java package.
>
> Sebastian Redl

Thanks Sebastian. I'll try it.

Really I need to go look for a Wiki page for doing this on 64-bit
Gentoo . This machine has been running 64-bit for at least 2 years and
this hasn't been important up until now so I'm in need of a solution
that is really equivalent to what my wife and son have on their 32-bit
Gentoo machines.

For a 32-bit plugin must I run a 32-bit version of Firefox? (I.e. - I
guess firefox-bin, correct?)

If the answer is yes then, if you know, what is the process of getting
Flash running in the same browser? Any problems? There used to be
IIRC.

Basically, can any browser, preferably Firefox, be made functionally
equivalent in terms of all web-based multimedia (Java, Flash, playing
audio and video files, etc.) with the same browser running on Gentoo
32-bit?

Thanks!

- Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

> On 9/20/07, Sebastian Redl <sebastian.redl@getdesigned.at> wrote:
> > Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > [ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE="X alsa -doc -examples
> > > -jce (-nsplugin)" 0 kB
> > >
> > The flag is masked. You have to first unmask the flag if you want to
> > enable it. You should be able to do that in
> > /etc/portage/package.use.unmask if I understood the thread correctly.
> >
> > Also, for a 32-bit plugin, you need the emul-x86-java package.
> >
> > Sebastian Redl
> 
> Thanks Sebastian. I'll try it.
> 
> Really I need to go look for a Wiki page for doing this on 64-bit
> Gentoo . This machine has been running 64-bit for at least 2 years and
> this hasn't been important up until now so I'm in need of a solution
> that is really equivalent to what my wife and son have on their 32-bit
> Gentoo machines.
> 
> For a 32-bit plugin must I run a 32-bit version of Firefox? (I.e. - I
> guess firefox-bin, correct?)
> 
> If the answer is yes then, if you know, what is the process of getting
> Flash running in the same browser? Any problems? There used to be
> IIRC.
> 
> Basically, can any browser, preferably Firefox, be made functionally
> equivalent in terms of all web-based multimedia (Java, Flash, playing
> audio and video files, etc.) with the same browser running on Gentoo
> 32-bit?

Although I have 64-bit machine for years now, recently I completely switched to 32 bit 
firefox-bin, just found supporting both 64-bit and 32-bit firefoxes too much of a bother.
32-bit flash and java works OK for me.  Flash under 64-bit is I guess possible through some 
wrappers, but is a pain.

Dmitri

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Björn Bredohl]

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Dmitri Pogosyan schrieb:
> 
> Although I have 64-bit machine for years now, recently I completely switched to 32 bit 
> firefox-bin, just found supporting both 64-bit and 32-bit firefoxes too much of a bother.
> 32-bit flash and java works OK for me.  Flash under 64-bit is I guess possible through some 
> wrappers, but is a pain.
> 

Only java is not supported for firefox 64bit. Most other plugins are
possible with nspluginwrapper.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AMD64

-Björn


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Dmitri Pogosyan <pogosyan@phys.ualberta.ca> wrote:
<SNIP>
> >
> > Basically, can any browser, preferably Firefox, be made functionally
> > equivalent in terms of all web-based multimedia (Java, Flash, playing
> > audio and video files, etc.) with the same browser running on Gentoo
> > 32-bit?
>
> Although I have 64-bit machine for years now, recently I completely switched to 32 bit
> firefox-bin, just found supporting both 64-bit and 32-bit firefoxes too much of a bother.
> 32-bit flash and java works OK for me.  Flash under 64-bit is I guess possible through some
> wrappers, but is a pain.
>
> Dmitri
>

HI Dmitri,
   That's essentially where I thought I was when I started this
thread. Mainly I use firefox-bin, currently version 2.0.0.6. Flash
seems to work fine. Yahoo Video as a test site, other places also.
Everything seems OK. good so far.

   As per what I think I've pieced together from this thread and the
forum link Bjorn point me toward I've done the following:

1) Unmasked the nsplugin flag for sun-jdk.

lightning ~ # cat /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
dev-java/sun-jdk -nsplugin
lightning ~ #

2) Unmasked sun-jdk

lightning ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | grep sun
dev-java/sun-jdk ~amd64
lightning ~ #

3) Built sun-jdk with nsplugin support:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv sun-jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE="X alsa nsplugin -doc
-examples -jce" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

4) Set the java-vm both system wide and for my user account to be
sun-jdk-1.6.0.02:

lightning ~ # java-config -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
2)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
*)      Sun JDK 1.6.0.02 [sun-jdk-1.6]
4)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
lightning ~ #

mark@lightning ~ $ java-config -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)      Sun 32bit JRE 1.6.0.02 [emul-linux-x86-java-1.6]
2)      Sun JDK 1.5.0.12 [sun-jdk-1.5]
*)      Sun JDK 1.6.0.02 [sun-jdk-1.6]
4)      Sun JRE 1.6.0.02 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
mark@lightning ~ $

5) Attempted to choose the correct nsplugin but nothing is there for
either root or my account:

lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
lightning ~ #

mark@lightning ~ $ eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
mark@lightning ~ $

   It seems I'm sort of stuck at this last step.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Björn Bredohl]

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Mark Knecht schrieb:
> 5) Attempted to choose the correct nsplugin but nothing is there for
> either root or my account:
> 
> lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
> Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
> Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
> lightning ~ #
> 
> mark@lightning ~ $ eselect java-nsplugin list
> Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
> Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
> mark@lightning ~ $
> 
>    It seems I'm sort of stuck at this last step.
> 

have you make this?

# echo "app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java nsplugin" >>
/etc/portage/package.use
# emerge emul-linux-x86-java



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

> Dmitri Pogosyan schrieb:
> > 
> > Although I have 64-bit machine for years now, recently I completely switched to 32 bit 
> > firefox-bin, just found supporting both 64-bit and 32-bit firefoxes too much of a bother.
> > 32-bit flash and java works OK for me.  Flash under 64-bit is I guess possible through 
some 
> > wrappers, but is a pain.
> > 

> Only java is not supported for firefox 64bit. Most other plugins are
> possible with nspluginwrapper.

Sure, even java  - I still have blackdown installed, which had a plugin (I remember, how two 
years ago I would go for 64 bit firefox if I need to see site with java, and for 32-bit - if I need 
flash).  But is there point to bother ? I have couple of 32-bit applications, like openoffice, 
anyway. 

> 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AMD64
> 
> -Bj�rn



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Dmitri Pogosyan <pogosyan@phys.ualberta.ca> wrote:
> > Dmitri Pogosyan schrieb:
> > >
> > > Although I have 64-bit machine for years now, recently I completely switched to 32 bit
> > > firefox-bin, just found supporting both 64-bit and 32-bit firefoxes too much of a bother.
> > > 32-bit flash and java works OK for me.  Flash under 64-bit is I guess possible through
> some
> > > wrappers, but is a pain.
> > >
>
> > Only java is not supported for firefox 64bit. Most other plugins are
> > possible with nspluginwrapper.
>
> Sure, even java  - I still have blackdown installed, which had a plugin (I remember, how two
> years ago I would go for 64 bit firefox if I need to see site with java, and for 32-bit - if I need
> flash).  But is there point to bother ? I have couple of 32-bit applications, like openoffice,
> anyway.
>

I may need to install Blackdown along with Sun. My first significant
use of Java now that I have this working was not so good. The Java
frame didn't draw the stock charts (or anything else) and then Firefox
completely hung and had to be killed. I tried the web site (
http://www.thinkorswim.com ) a couple of times and got the same bad
results.

Now that I have it working it seems to me that it will be easier to
maybe find a version that does work, assuming there is one.

I have to try this on 32-bit Linux also to see if it's a Java thing or
an AMD64 thing.

Anyway, thanks.

- Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

> 
> I may need to install Blackdown along with Sun. My first significant
> use of Java now that I have this working was not so good. The Java
> frame didn't draw the stock charts (or anything else) and then Firefox
> completely hung and had to be killed. I tried the web site (
> http://www.thinkorswim.com ) a couple of times and got the same bad
> results.
> 

Looked at this site with my 32-bit firefox - no problem.
I have  
emul-linux-x86-java-1.5.0.12

> 
> - Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Dmitri Pogosyan <pogosyan@phys.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> > I may need to install Blackdown along with Sun. My first significant
> > use of Java now that I have this working was not so good. The Java
> > frame didn't draw the stock charts (or anything else) and then Firefox
> > completely hung and had to be killed. I tried the web site (
> > http://www.thinkorswim.com ) a couple of times and got the same bad
> > results.
> >
>
> Looked at this site with my 32-bit firefox - no problem.
> I have
> emul-linux-x86-java-1.5.0.12
>

Did you create an account with them, get a password, and then log in
to start an online trading session using their web-based stock trading
platform? It's not until I do that that I have any problems.

Their whole platform is built on Java. I run their stand-alone
application version on Windows Vista. I've run it on OS X. I've tried
to run the stand-alone Linux application on Gentoo, both 32-bit &
64-bit, but couldn't get it to install. (Maybe 6 months ago? Maybe
longer.)

Anyway, the whole trading platform is Java based but you won't get to
the real meat of the problem until you create an account (free to
create) and then run the full blown program.

I'll keep looking into this.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java on AMD64

[Bernhard Auzinger]

Am Donnerstag 20 September 2007 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> It has been a long time since I've looked at Java on my AMD64 machine.
> I run into links, etc., and they don't work. It was frustrating two
> years ago. It just didn't work. On my machine still it doesn't, but
> maybe this is because I haven't tried to fix it in a long time, so...
>
> Here's a link with some Java on the page:
>
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GaussianFunction.html
>
> I get the typical white box with a jigsaw puzzle piece asking me to
> 'Click here to download plugin' and then a message about JRE missing.
>
> I currently use Blackdown but notice this 'virtual' JRE is Sun. That
> all seems a bit strange.
>
> lightning ~ # eix -I jre
> [I] dev-java/blackdown-jre
>      Available versions:  (1.4.2)  1.4.2.03-r14
>         {nsplugin}
>      Installed versions:  1.4.2.03-r14(1.4.2)(01:56:19 AM
> 06/02/2007)(-nsplugin) Homepage:            http://www.blackdown.org
>      Description:         Blackdown Java Runtime Environment
>
> [U] virtual/jre
>      Available versions:
>         (1.4)   1.4.1 1.4.2
>         (1.5)   1.5.0
>         (1.6)   1.6.0
>      Installed versions:  1.5.0(1.5)(10:30:16 PM 06/01/2007)
>      Homepage:            http://java.sun.com/
>      Description:         Virtual for JRE
>
> Found 2 matches.
> lightning ~ #
>
> I thought that before I invested too much time I'd ask if there is
> anyone who makes pages like the one above work and what you have
> installed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Mark

But if you are comfortable in using conqueror, there is another possibility. 
Because as far as I know, konqueror uses the java-vm directly (no plugin). So 
you can use the 64bit sun-jdk/jre without any problem.

Rgds
Bernhard
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