[gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Mark Haney]

Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel 
sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer 
need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since 
I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in 
in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean 
as possible.

Does that make sense?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Mark Knecht]

??

eix -I gentoo-sources

??

On 3/21/07, Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote:
> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
> sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer
> need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since
> I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in
> in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean
> as possible.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
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> Ita erat quando hic adveni.
>
> Mark Haney
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> ERC Broadband
> (828) 350-2415
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>
>
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Bob Slawson]

Mark Haney wrote:
> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel 
> sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer 
> need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since 
> I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in 
> in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean 
> as possible.
> 
> Does that make sense?
> 
Sure, I've worked that way as well.

A great addition is:

emerge eix and run 'update-eix'. This builds a database of installed 
packages. Then

% eix gentoo-sources            (or vanilla-sources or whatever)

will list all the available ebuilds for gentoo-sources and highlight 
those that portage thinks are installed.

'unmerge'ing those you don't want will clean up portage's database of 
installed packages.  Doesn't remove /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/ 
though or old kernels from /boot/.  Seems that manual deletion is 
required here.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Mark Haney]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> ??
> 
> eix -I gentoo-sources
> 
> ??
> 
> On 3/21/07, Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
>> sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer
>> need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since
>> I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in
>> in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean
>> as possible.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> -- 
>> Ita erat quando hic adveni.
>>
>> Mark Haney
>> Sr. Systems Administrator
>> ERC Broadband
>> (828) 350-2415
>> -- 
>> gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>

I have never heard of eix, but I"ll give it a shot and see.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Christoph Mende]

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On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 14:45 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel 
> sources I've installed?
eix -cI "\-sources"
lists all kernel sources

emerge -P gentoo-sources
removes all gentoo-sources, except the one you installed at last

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Mittwoch, 21. März 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
> sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer
> need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since
> I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in
> in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean
> as possible.
>
> Does that make sense?
>

yes.

Removing the sources first and unmerging after that is a lot faster than 
unmerging first and removing the remains.

The easiest way to find out which sources are installed:

ls -l /var/db/pkg/sys-kernel

no fance tools are needed.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Bernhard Auzinger]

> 'unmerge'ing those you don't want will clean up portage's database of
> installed packages.  Doesn't remove /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/
> though or old kernels from /boot/.  Seems that manual deletion is
> required here.

That's because one may still want to use a compiled kernel after the removal 
of the kernel sources.

The second thing is that sys-kernel/gentoo-sources does only refer to the 
kernel sources and not to your self-made kernel. If the kernel were 
made/compiled by portage like any other program, portage would remove it. But 
unless this does not happen (and by the way is not possible yet), why should 
portage clean up the things it has not caused?

rgds
Bernhard


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 18:45:39 Mark Haney wrote:

> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
> sources I've installed?

And one more they haven't mentioned:

equery l gentoo-sources

which I think gives a neater output.

(That's equery l, for list.)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Dizzy]

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 21:02, Mark Haney wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > ??
> >
> > eix -I gentoo-sources
> >
> > ??
> >
> > On 3/21/07, Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote:
> >> Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
> >> sources I've installed?  When I've removed kernel sources I no longer
> >> need because of upgrades I've just rm -rf the kernel directory. Since
> >> I've done that, I've realized that portage is probably keeping that in
> >> in world as installed and I would like to keep the portage db as clean
> >> as possible.
> >>
> >> Does that make sense?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ita erat quando hic adveni.
> >>
> >> Mark Haney
> >> Sr. Systems Administrator
> >> ERC Broadband
> >> (828) 350-2415
> >> --
> >> gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
>
> I have never heard of eix, but I"ll give it a shot and see.

I also use "epm" (rpm-like interface) and something like epm -q gentoo-sources 
(or rpm -qa | grep sources if you want all things containing sources). Would 
someone tell me what's better with eix ? 

I would assume it's a faster search algorithm than epm but then again, do I 
have to rerun the update db of eix on each database update or it installs in 
the portage modules or something to do it automatically ?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[יובל האגר]

> I also use "epm" (rpm-like interface) and something like epm -q
> gentoo-sources (or rpm -qa | grep sources if you want all things containing
> sources). Would someone tell me what's better with eix ?
>
> I would assume it's a faster search algorithm than epm but then again, do I
> have to rerun the update db of eix on each database update or it installs
> in the portage modules or something to do it automatically ?
>

I don't know about epm, but it's much faster (and better IMHO) than equery et. 
al.

you can use 'eix-sync' which takes care of syncing your tree AND update the 
eix database.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Jack Lloyd]

On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:24:37PM +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 March 2007 18:45:39 Mark Haney wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
> > sources I've installed?
> 
> And one more they haven't mentioned:
> 
> equery l gentoo-sources

Another, related one that I use a lot is

equery l sys-kernel/

(since I use a mix of gentoo-sources and vanilla-sources on my
machines, depending on which contains fixes for the bugs that happen
to be bothering me that day).

-J
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Daniel Gryniewicz]

On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 21:55 +0100, Bernhard Auzinger wrote:
> > 'unmerge'ing those you don't want will clean up portage's database of
> > installed packages.  Doesn't remove /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/
> > though or old kernels from /boot/.  Seems that manual deletion is
> > required here.
> 
> That's because one may still want to use a compiled kernel after the removal 
> of the kernel sources.
> 

Actually, it's because portage only removes what portage installed,
which is the source, in this case.  It didn't install the modules (you
did, by running make modules_install), so it won't remove them.

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Drake Donahue]

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to


> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:24:37PM +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Wednesday 21 March 2007 18:45:39 Mark Haney wrote:
>> 
>> > Is there a way I can get portage to show me all the listed kernel
>> > sources I've installed?
>> 
>> And one more they haven't mentioned:
>> 
>> equery l gentoo-sources
> 
> Another, related one that I use a lot is
> 
> equery l sys-kernel/
> 
> (since I use a mix of gentoo-sources and vanilla-sources on my
> machines, depending on which contains fixes for the bugs that happen
> to be bothering me that day).

or 
as mentioned in "Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide":
eselect kernel list

> 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Quick Portage How to

[Thomas Rösner]

Daniel Gryniewicz schrieb:
> On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 21:55 +0100, Bernhard Auzinger wrote:
>   
>>> 'unmerge'ing those you don't want will clean up portage's database of
>>> installed packages.  Doesn't remove /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/
>>> though or old kernels from /boot/.  Seems that manual deletion is
>>> required here.
>>>       
>> That's because one may still want to use a compiled kernel after the removal 
>> of the kernel sources.
>>
>>     
>
> Actually, it's because portage only removes what portage installed,
> which is the source, in this case.  It didn't install the modules (you
> did, by running make modules_install), so it won't remove them.
>   

Even if they were installed by portage, /lib/modules is in CONFIG_PROTECT.

Regards,
    Thomas
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