From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H0QWD-0003z4-80 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:48:05 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kBTMjcrm020039; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:45:38 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBTMjbW9004952 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:45:38 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so9277821nfb for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TlQ/808jgdA++GPuv3JCErevHR2DM3WdB2EBtKjIHEZmL6fuZ9HDCtXj570z0HWIBNTj9F+HWxFQztEV8gO7UbvUnLdaOcSZItbrq0Miv0xYNZw6cc3mbE/1aGzths4to0k8xH3UrcYFAkByz79N43GXQQucExMt+o86/+OWaFc= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr3171820bue.1167432337804; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.106.18 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0612291445h1c927ecag3cfdf19f134a6e28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:37 -0800 From: "Mark Knecht" To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Browsing speed problems - possibly flash related In-Reply-To: <7a329d910612290531k37a7e5d7p9c79dcf010f718f6@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5bdc1c8b0612280801j6c3b1591h3dfb4795186bf527@mail.gmail.com> <200612281559.21743.bss03@volumehost.net> <7a329d910612290531k37a7e5d7p9c79dcf010f718f6@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ecbdf815-40aa-4931-87a8-dfab24dc0bed X-Archives-Hash: 0813761ffa401345a262b1d656c32839 On 12/29/06, Wil Reichert wrote: > On 12/29/06, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." posted > > 200612281559.21743.bss03@volumehost.net, excerpted below, on Thu, 28 Dec > > 2006 15:59:15 -0600: > > > > > On Thursday 28 December 2006 10:01, "Mark Knecht" > > > wrote about '[gentoo-amd64] Browsing speed problems - possibly flash > > > related': > > >> Is this a firefox-bin thing? Maybe I should build firefox from > > >> source? > > > > > > Good luck getting flash to work if you do that. :P > > > > Oh, it should be no problem, as long as one is building a 32-bit firefox, > > presumably in one's 32-bit chroot, following the Gentoo/amd64 32-bit > > chroot guide. > > > > Of course, if one is building a standard 64-bit firefox and expecting the > > 32-bit flash shared object plugin to work in the 64-bit firefox process > > address space, then one is in for a bit of disappointment, but that's only > > common sense so should be expected and go without saying. =8^P > > 64 bit firefox & 32 bit plugins, heard of nspluginwrapper? =) WIP & > I've seen varying reports of success from different people, but it > works well for me. > > As for the web page in question, I see the exact same behaviour Mark > describes on my system. Sounds more like a windows / linux thing than > a 32 / 64 bit thing. Just guessing tho. > > Wil Hi Wil, I was just sort of finishing up on this topic from my end. On the front page I see the same sort of slow loading behaviour on my wife's 32-bit Gentoo box so I tend to agree with you. Whatever it is that's going on there, and I pretty sure it's a Flash process, it's just far slower on Linux than Windows for me. Note that if this was just Flash on the front page it would be no big deal. However I think there may be additional issues around the speed of Java once you log in and get inside the web site. That is what really matters and it's very slow on this machine. My 64-bit machine was turned off over Christmas while I traveled. It's back up and the problem remains but it's not a network problem. I've transferred about 27GB of data in the last three days - mostly web browsing and MythTV streaming - with no dropped packets: lightning ~ # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:D4:3E:14:6A inet addr:192.168.1.56 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:d4ff:fe3e:146a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:19784419 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:10307909 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:26968563236 (25719.2 Mb) TX bytes:721444417 (688.0 Mb) Interrupt:23 Base address:0x2000 All of this leads me to once again consider either downgrading to 32-bit or trying to run a 32-bit chroot again. The chroot, while a lot of work, does allow me to keep the work I do on this web site sort of self contained which wouldn't be bad. The problem is that I see 'leakage' between the two environments while running Firefox which worries me. Which ever environment I start Firefox in first is the environment that provides bookmarks for both sides. That leads me to not trust the chroot thing completely, but maybe with some study I could get that fixed. Anyway, thanks much for reporting back. At least it's good to know it's not just my machine. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list