From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-amd64+bounces-12368-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NZvLh-0001OL-Vk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:01:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47580E09BE for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f174.google.com (mail-yx0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D71E0992 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe4 with SMTP id 4so3804188yxe.32 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:01:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bc9GJcBdZ/FJqzGP78BBhfZSBUgwvR0TOPrtxHKnjkw=; b=gkkVvcP0fpmAxmQwpzBRD8he4FRznrQAOKfpjdQHWSycvgbz0M9m0i2i2mcrvFrSDF DOtY24yxKLTcdMmJm1j2SUQeAZ/imiU33YWutsKYC1+7YvNwmD06c3ajaOJrGNut84Ee 3JdGOnF9gsTKeIYKkAQ8aEoXhiDC1LRDj6Qzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NMCaPsZPbe/7A8CjSG3fpoE8QmCjd8SqmZPsrH8QUmaEvl+DGxHtJ5sPAz0H6ULOkw TsBQZCJnfmDCc/2rGZQO4QymhSIZ1g7FdDsvBr5L/55fTY+igsH4fCBcuONsBRhhdBt9 Ww5X0Qy5fkFAQSOgCLn/80GyQzZw+1azwa5Lc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-amd64.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.151.89.40 with SMTP id r40mr11397495ybl.157.1264543272634; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:01:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b1001261155p400fd174nc90742c8fe2e5da3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b1001261155p400fd174nc90742c8fe2e5da3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:01:12 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a27355b5cb8f7ec4 Message-ID: <58965d8a1001261401o25f33785o81903e3bfbdea2ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Virtualization/WinXP From: Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 411ff253-37df-4e24-9ccf-4663cbeabd79 X-Archives-Hash: 84eadfeff067cf70d9b972557bf37e86 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > OK - with the new machine up and running well enough to do some > work I really need to get some sort of virtualization going to see if > I can get around the fact that XP cannot be installed on this machine. > (at least not easily) I need to run TradeStation and I'd like to try > under Linux but Wine is ABSOLUTELY not an option. > > I ran XP & TS on my older system (5 year old 3GHz AMD64) but it's > been a long time since I tried it. The performance was just OK. I > expect this machine may be acceptable. > > To anyone familiar with this subject a few questions: > > 1) If I go the VMWare route is it vmware-workstation that I want? If you want to pay money, it works and is very easy to use. vmware-server is free (but not open source?) > 2) Are there any prebuilt XP images that would save me the hassle of > installing Win XP and just allow me to validate with my existing keys? > Is this the purpose of vmware-player? (which doesn't seem to have > fetch restrictions...) vmware-player lets you run an existing virtual machine but not create one, IIRC. VMWare has a lot of "virtual appliances" on their website which are pre-made virtual machine images for various purposes. I don't think Windows is included. You'll probably have to install it manually. However, Microsoft gives away free time-limited XP virtual machine images (VirtualPC format; you'll have to convert it to the format of your choice, vmware has some free tool to do this for converting to their format), supposedly for testing for old Internet Explorer versions but you can install anything you want in them. I think they last for 6 months. You may be able to use some windows key-changer software (magical jellybean?) to reactivate that image with your own key. I don't know specifically which version of Windows they give or which version you're licensed to use. > 3) In some ways the most important question is what are the Open > Source alternatives and how easy are they to set up? http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison It seems the most common choices I've seen mentioned are virtualbox, xen, kvm, vmware, in no particular order.