From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:39:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D010655.5070302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2010.12.09.10.04.52@cox.net>
Duncan wrote:
> Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:13:21 -0600 as excerpted:
>
>
>> Stan Sander wrote:
>>
>
>>> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32
>>> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute
>>> grub at all. It's under file formats / Emulations in the menu.
>>>
> I think that's covered in the handbook, now, but posting's still good,
> just in case it would have been overlooked. FWIW when I first switched to
> no-multilib, before I did the 32-bit chroot thing, I tried turning off
> that option in the kernel... and found I couldn't run... I think it was
> lilo I was running at the time, properly, so it's definitely worth
> remembering.
>
>
>> Glad you posted this. I looked at the USE flags for grub not a package
>> called grub-static. That seems to be two different beasts. I never
>> knew that package existed. Would emerging the plain grub with the
>> static USE flag give the same results? I would think not else they
>> would just have one package but am curious just the same.
>>
> The grub-static package is actually a pre-built grub (obviously built with
> the static USE flag), binpkged by gentoo/amd64, with an ebuild to unpack
> and install it, for those that want/need it. With both lilo and grub,
> parts are 32-bit (or actually, 16-bit) only, as that's the mode all x86
> computers even x86_64/amd64 computers start their boot in, so that's what
> at least part of an x86 bootloader must be built in. As such, the grub
> package remains hard-masked in the no-multilib profiles (someone at one
> point claimed it should build, but I haven't tried and am skeptical,
> especially when it's still hard-masked for no-multilib), where grub-static
> is the recommended bootloader.
>
> But grub-static actually /is/ a binpkged grub, built on either a 32-bit
> only machine or a 64-bit machine with multilib (I'm not sure which), with
> an ebuild that simply unpacks the binpkg, and puts the files where they
> need to go when it's installed. As such, emerging grub with the static
> and other USE flags set as in the binpkg, should get something quite
> similar, yes. But there's some particulars there I'm not sure of (the
> boot part should be identical, but I'm not sure if the part run on a
> normally running machine gets compiled in 32-bit mode or in 64-bit mode on
> a 64-bit machine, and that could be critical), so I'm not sure whether
> it'd be an exact replacement or not.
>
>
So the static version is like OOo-bin then? That makes sense. I may
try the plain one at first and see if it works. If not, I can switch to
the static one. It's not like it will take hours to install on a 4 core
CPU running at 3.2Ghz. lol If I blink, I may miss it. :/
Thanks
Dale
:-) :-)
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-08 21:17 [gentoo-amd64] About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted Dale
2010-12-08 22:23 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09 0:04 ` Dale
2010-12-09 2:13 ` Stan Sander
2010-12-09 4:51 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 5:32 ` Dale
2010-12-09 7:42 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:28 ` Dale
2010-12-09 19:55 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 5:13 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09 8:53 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 10:04 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 15:19 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:37 ` Dale
2010-12-09 17:37 ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 18:40 ` Dale
2010-12-09 16:39 ` Dale [this message]
2010-12-09 15:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stan Sander
2010-12-09 16:42 ` Dale
2010-12-09 8:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 15:48 ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:09 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-08 22:58 ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09 0:08 ` Dale
2010-12-08 23:03 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 0:26 ` Dale
2010-12-09 1:13 ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09 5:29 ` Dale
2010-12-09 9:48 ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:43 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:47 ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:58 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Paul Jewell
2010-12-09 14:09 ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09 15:13 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09 16:53 ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:22 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 14:52 ` [gentoo-amd64] " J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 16:55 ` Dale
2010-12-09 18:03 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-10 12:34 ` Alex Alexander
2010-12-11 2:12 ` Dale
2010-12-09 15:27 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:26 ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 17:04 ` Lie Ryan
2010-12-09 19:01 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:09 ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 1:17 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09 1:54 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 4:41 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 5:18 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09 6:55 ` Thomas M
2010-12-09 7:26 ` Dale
2010-12-09 9:36 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 4:13 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 6:11 ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:10 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 15:36 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:05 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 23:22 ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:54 ` Thanasis
2010-12-10 22:48 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 2:27 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Alex Schuster
2010-12-09 5:21 ` Dale
2010-12-09 9:33 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 10:12 ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:18 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 17:03 ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:33 ` Duncan
2010-12-09 21:45 ` Alex Schuster
2010-12-09 23:28 ` Dale
2010-12-10 11:59 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-10 13:16 ` Dale
2010-12-09 10:06 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stefan G. Weichinger
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