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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:39:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D010655.5070302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2010.12.09.10.04.52@cox.net>

Duncan wrote:
> Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:13:21 -0600 as excerpted:
>
>    
>> Stan Sander wrote:
>>      
>    
>>> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32
>>> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute
>>> grub at all.  It's under file formats / Emulations in the menu.
>>>        
> I think that's covered in the handbook, now, but posting's still good,
> just in case it would have been overlooked.  FWIW when I first switched to
> no-multilib, before I did the 32-bit chroot thing, I tried turning off
> that option in the kernel... and found I couldn't run... I think it was
> lilo I was running at the time, properly, so it's definitely worth
> remembering.
>
>    
>> Glad you posted this.  I looked at the USE flags for grub not a package
>> called grub-static.  That seems to be two different beasts.  I never
>> knew that package existed.  Would emerging the plain grub with the
>> static USE flag give the same results?  I would think not else they
>> would just have one package but am curious just the same.
>>      
> The grub-static package is actually a pre-built grub (obviously built with
> the static USE flag), binpkged by gentoo/amd64, with an ebuild to unpack
> and install it, for those that want/need it.  With both lilo and grub,
> parts are 32-bit (or actually, 16-bit) only, as that's the mode all x86
> computers even x86_64/amd64 computers start their boot in, so that's what
> at least part of an x86 bootloader must be built in.  As such, the grub
> package remains hard-masked in the no-multilib profiles (someone at one
> point claimed it should build, but I haven't tried and am skeptical,
> especially when it's still hard-masked for no-multilib), where grub-static
> is the recommended bootloader.
>
> But grub-static actually /is/ a binpkged grub, built on either a 32-bit
> only machine or a 64-bit machine with multilib (I'm not sure which), with
> an ebuild that simply unpacks the binpkg, and puts the files where they
> need to go when it's installed.  As such, emerging grub with the static
> and other USE flags set as in the binpkg, should get something quite
> similar, yes.  But there's some particulars there I'm not sure of (the
> boot part should be identical, but I'm not sure if the part run on a
> normally running machine gets compiled in 32-bit mode or in 64-bit mode on
> a 64-bit machine, and that could be critical), so I'm not sure whether
> it'd be an exact replacement or not.
>
>    

So the static version is like OOo-bin then?  That makes sense.  I may 
try the plain one at first and see if it works.  If not, I can switch to 
the static one.  It's not like it will take hours to install on a 4 core 
CPU running at 3.2Ghz.  lol  If I blink, I may miss it.  :/

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-09 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08 21:17 [gentoo-amd64] About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted Dale
2010-12-08 22:23 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09  0:04   ` Dale
2010-12-09  2:13     ` Stan Sander
2010-12-09  4:51       ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  5:32         ` Dale
2010-12-09  7:42           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:28             ` Dale
2010-12-09 19:55               ` Duncan
2010-12-09  5:13       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09  8:53         ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 10:04         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 15:19           ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:37             ` Dale
2010-12-09 17:37               ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 18:40                 ` Dale
2010-12-09 16:39           ` Dale [this message]
2010-12-09 15:22         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stan Sander
2010-12-09 16:42           ` Dale
2010-12-09  8:48   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 15:48     ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:09       ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-08 22:58 ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09  0:08   ` Dale
2010-12-08 23:03 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  0:26   ` Dale
2010-12-09  1:13     ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09  5:29       ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:48         ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:43           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 16:47             ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:58           ` [gentoo-amd64] " Paul Jewell
2010-12-09 14:09             ` Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski
2010-12-09 15:13               ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09 16:53                 ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:22                   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 14:52             ` [gentoo-amd64] " J. Roeleveld
2010-12-09 16:55               ` Dale
2010-12-09 18:03                 ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-10 12:34                 ` Alex Alexander
2010-12-11  2:12                   ` Dale
2010-12-09 15:27             ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 16:26               ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09 17:04               ` Lie Ryan
2010-12-09 19:01                 ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:09                   ` Harry Holt
2010-12-09  1:17     ` Mark Knecht
2010-12-09  1:54     ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09  4:41       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09  5:18       ` [gentoo-amd64] " Dale
2010-12-09  6:55         ` Thomas M
2010-12-09  7:26           ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:36         ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09  4:13     ` Duncan
2010-12-09  6:11       ` Dale
2010-12-09 11:10         ` Duncan
2010-12-09 15:36         ` Frank Peters
2010-12-09 20:05           ` Duncan
2010-12-09 23:22             ` Dale
2010-12-10 12:54       ` Thanasis
2010-12-10 22:48         ` Duncan
2010-12-09  2:27 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Alex Schuster
2010-12-09  5:21   ` Dale
2010-12-09  9:33     ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
2010-12-09 10:12       ` Florian Philipp
2010-12-09 11:18         ` Duncan
2010-12-09 17:03           ` Dale
2010-12-09 20:33             ` Duncan
2010-12-09 21:45               ` Alex Schuster
2010-12-09 23:28                 ` Dale
2010-12-10 11:59                   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-12-10 13:16                     ` Dale
2010-12-09 10:06   ` [gentoo-amd64] " Stefan G. Weichinger

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