[gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[Mark Haney]

Typically when I do a massive upgrade (like to KDE) I fetch the files 
down, then do the emerge later when I don't need internet access 
necessarily.  However, this time I started the upgrade to KDe4.1 without 
doing that.

What I want to know is, is it possible for me to do an emerge -f 
--resume to fetch the packages I need /before/ resuming the emerge, say 
later tonight?


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[Beso]

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2008/8/13 Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org>

> Typically when I do a massive upgrade (like to KDE) I fetch the files down,
> then do the emerge later when I don't need internet access necessarily.
>  However, this time I started the upgrade to KDe4.1 without doing that.
>
> What I want to know is, is it possible for me to do an emerge -f --resume
> to fetch the packages I need /before/ resuming the emerge, say later
> tonight?
>

try doing the emerge of one package in one terminal, then in the other do
the same emerge with fetchonly option after the first one has started
compilation. this will fetch the packages while the other is still building.
the resume also, works only once for what i know. that's why the paludis
hooks that always prints out the packages to install (before actually
installing them and after each time you stop the compile) and the one
installed is a better way to handle the stop and restart of compilation
processes.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch, 13. August 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
> Typically when I do a massive upgrade (like to KDE) I fetch the files
> down, then do the emerge later when I don't need internet access
> necessarily.  However, this time I started the upgrade to KDe4.1 without
> doing that.
>
> What I want to know is, is it possible for me to do an emerge -f
> --resume to fetch the packages I need /before/ resuming the emerge, say
> later tonight?

why not just an emerge -f? or just download the packages and copy them to 
/usr/portage/distfiles

[gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge --resume question

[Duncan]

"Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> posted
48A33D3B.9090000@ercbroadband.org, excerpted below, on  Wed, 13 Aug 2008
15:59:55 -0400:

> Typically when I do a massive upgrade (like to KDE) I fetch the files
> down, then do the emerge later when I don't need internet access
> necessarily.  However, this time I started the upgrade to KDe4.1 without
> doing that.
> 
> What I want to know is, is it possible for me to do an emerge -f
> --resume to fetch the packages I need /before/ resuming the emerge, say
> later tonight?

I don't believe so.  Even if it worked, that would cross the packages off 
the resume list as they were fetched, so you'd no longer be able to 
resume the full merge.  

However, if you have FEATURES=parallel-fetch turned on, portage will 
start emerging the first package and while it's going, portage will be 
fetching the other packages in the background.  Depending on how long the 
first merge takes and the speed of your net connection, and assuming 
there's no fetch error, you may well have all the rest fetched by the 
time the first one is finished.

But... I'm not sure you can change FEATURES in the middle of an emerge 
either, and have them picked up for the rest of the session (including 
for a --resume).  If you had the feature turned on at the beginning, you 
may well already have everything downloaded.  =8^)  If you didn't, well...

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge --resume question

[andrew]

Duncan wrote:
> "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> posted
> 48A33D3B.9090000@ercbroadband.org, excerpted below, on  Wed, 13 Aug 2008
> 15:59:55 -0400:
> 
>> Typically when I do a massive upgrade (like to KDE) I fetch the files
>> down, then do the emerge later when I don't need internet access
>> necessarily.  However, this time I started the upgrade to KDe4.1 without
>> doing that.
>>
>> What I want to know is, is it possible for me to do an emerge -f
>> --resume to fetch the packages I need /before/ resuming the emerge, say
>> later tonight?
> 
> I don't believe so.  Even if it worked, that would cross the packages off 
> the resume list as they were fetched, so you'd no longer be able to 
> resume the full merge.  
> 

No, this is incorrect.  emerge -f --resume does not cross packages off
the resume list.

What you want to do should work properly.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[Juan Fco. Giordana]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> why not just an emerge -f? or just download the packages and copy them to 
> /usr/portage/distfiles


You're forgetting the patches for the second choise.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge --resume question

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag, 14. August 2008, Juan Fco. Giordana wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > why not just an emerge -f? or just download the packages and copy them to
> > /usr/portage/distfiles
>
> You're forgetting the patches for the second choise.

patches are already downloaded. Look into /usr/portage/category/appname/files/

[gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge --resume question

[Duncan]

andrew <jandrewlong@gmail.com> posted g7vk9c$8qs$1@ger.gmane.org,
excerpted below, on  Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:38:52 -0400:

> No, this is incorrect.  emerge -f --resume does not cross packages off
> the resume list.
> 
> What you want to do should work properly.

Hmm.  New to me! (Obviously.)  =8^)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge --resume question

[Mark Haney]

Duncan wrote:
> andrew <jandrewlong@gmail.com> posted g7vk9c$8qs$1@ger.gmane.org,
> excerpted below, on  Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:38:52 -0400:
> 
>> No, this is incorrect.  emerge -f --resume does not cross packages off
>> the resume list.
>>
>> What you want to do should work properly.
> 
> Hmm.  New to me! (Obviously.)  =8^)
> 

Well I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens.  :)



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Mark Haney
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge --resume question

[Mark Haney]

Mark Haney wrote:

>> Hmm.  New to me! (Obviously.)  =8^)
>>
> 
> Well I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens.  :)
> 
> 
> 

Yep, I could do an 'emerge -f --resume' and have it fetch the files 
without trouble, then an 'emerge --resume' gets me right back where I 
needed to be with the resume.  Well done, gentoo devs.  That's a 
lifesaver.  (Or a Now & Later, or gobstopper....)


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Mark Haney
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