[gentoo-amd64] Upgrade to KDE 3.5.8 and now sound issues.

[gentoo-amd64] Upgrade to KDE 3.5.8 and now sound issues.

[Mark Haney]

I recently upgraded to KDE 3.5.8 and now one of my favorite features, 
the ability to adjust my sound volume from within KDE (via Audacious or 
Amarok) isn't working.  I have to adjust it directly with alsamixer.

I've not made any major adjustments to make.conf or anything, so what am 
I overlooking?

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.5.8 and now sound issues.

[Duncan]

"Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> posted
47B22624.7000109@ercbroadband.org, excerpted below, on  Tue, 12 Feb 2008
18:05:08 -0500:

> I recently upgraded to KDE 3.5.8 and now one of my favorite features,
> the ability to adjust my sound volume from within KDE (via Audacious or
> Amarok) isn't working.  I have to adjust it directly with alsamixer.
> 
> I've not made any major adjustments to make.conf or anything, so what am
> I overlooking?

Do you use arts or not?  Even if you keep it disabled (as I do now), many 
KDE applications don't include much of their sound functionality if 
merged without the arts USE flag.  Thus, even if you don't actually /use/ 
arts, you likely still want the arts USE flag on, or you'll be missing a 
lot more than arts.  (I found that out the hard way.)

That's one of the good things to look forward to with KDE4.  No more 
virtually unending hassles with arts!  Unfortunately, it'll be KDE 4.1 
(at least) before it's the functional match of KDE 3.5.x.  That's set for 
June IIRC, which means July or later before it goes stable.  Figure 
second half of the year...

So if you had USE=-arts for anything, remerge it with USE=arts, and see 
if that helps.  You may have to remerge all of KDE if you didn't merge 
the arts package itself.

If it's not that, it depends.  The whole thing is rather a mess, with 
arts being one of the biggest festering sores of KDE 3 because it has had 
minimal maintenance for some time as it's a pile of patches on patches 
that no one has wanted to touch.  There are often ways to get things 
working, but they differ so much by installation and individual problem 
that it's very difficult to troubleshoot remotely, and even locally, it 
often ends up being a case of trying random things until you either give 
up or get lucky.  Thus, even if little else changed, getting rid of arts 
is reason enough to rejoice and eagerly await KDE4 (or install the 4.0.1 
Gentoo testing versions, in the tree but masked, if you don't mind some 
other stuff not working as smoothly as later KDE 3 has).

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.5.8 and now sound issues.

[Mark Haney]

Duncan wrote:
> "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> posted
> 47B22624.7000109@ercbroadband.org, excerpted below, on  Tue, 12 Feb 2008
> 18:05:08 -0500:
> 
>> I recently upgraded to KDE 3.5.8 and now one of my favorite features,
>> the ability to adjust my sound volume from within KDE (via Audacious or
>> Amarok) isn't working.  I have to adjust it directly with alsamixer.
>>
>> I've not made any major adjustments to make.conf or anything, so what am
>> I overlooking?
> 
> Do you use arts or not?  Even if you keep it disabled (as I do now), many 
> KDE applications don't include much of their sound functionality if 
> merged without the arts USE flag.  Thus, even if you don't actually /use/ 
> arts, you likely still want the arts USE flag on, or you'll be missing a 
> lot more than arts.  (I found that out the hard way.)
> 

Yeah arts might be the problem, I noticed that the latest 
artsplugin-xine update didn't emerge when I ran it earlier.  It seemed 
to compile, but failed on the install portion for some reason.  I am 
thinking now that this might be the problem.



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.5.8 and now sound issues.

[Beso]

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2008/2/13, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>:
>
> "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> posted
> 47B22624.7000109@ercbroadband.org, excerpted below, on  Tue, 12 Feb 2008
> 18:05:08 -0500:
>
> > I recently upgraded to KDE 3.5.8 and now one of my favorite features,
> > the ability to adjust my sound volume from within KDE (via Audacious or
> > Amarok) isn't working.  I have to adjust it directly with alsamixer.
> >
> > I've not made any major adjustments to make.conf or anything, so what am
> > I overlooking?
>
> Do you use arts or not?  Even if you keep it disabled (as I do now), many
> KDE applications don't include much of their sound functionality if
> merged without the arts USE flag.  Thus, even if you don't actually /use/
> arts, you likely still want the arts USE flag on, or you'll be missing a
> lot more than arts.  (I found that out the hard way.)
>
> That's one of the good things to look forward to with KDE4.  No more
> virtually unending hassles with arts!  Unfortunately, it'll be KDE 4.1
> (at least) before it's the functional match of KDE 3.5.x.  That's set for
> June IIRC, which means July or later before it goes stable.  Figure
> second half of the year...
>
> So if you had USE=-arts for anything, remerge it with USE=arts, and see
> if that helps.  You may have to remerge all of KDE if you didn't merge
> the arts package itself.
>
> If it's not that, it depends.  The whole thing is rather a mess, with
> arts being one of the biggest festering sores of KDE 3 because it has had
> minimal maintenance for some time as it's a pile of patches on patches
> that no one has wanted to touch.  There are often ways to get things
> working, but they differ so much by installation and individual problem
> that it's very difficult to troubleshoot remotely, and even locally, it
> often ends up being a case of trying random things until you either give
> up or get lucky.  Thus, even if little else changed, getting rid of arts
> is reason enough to rejoice and eagerly await KDE4 (or install the 4.0.1
> Gentoo testing versions, in the tree but masked, if you don't mind some
> other stuff not working as smoothly as later KDE 3 has).


i use -arts pulseaudio. this fixes the problems and lets you use pulseaudio
if you want. i got pulseaudio not started at startup and the sound still
works fine. also be sure to have the alsa-oss modules since they're still
needed by a lot of apps. even if you disable oss by default there are still
there some dark packages that still use oss. this shouldn't be the amarok or
xine case (i have them working well with -arts pulseaudio without pulseaudio
started) but when you try to use mplayer with amarok in the tray you get an
error for the sound device still occupied. i suspect that i need to run
pulseaudio to get rid of this minor issue, but i don't care much since i
only use mplayer very rarely.


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