* [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1
@ 2007-04-25 19:00 Mark Haney
2007-04-25 19:06 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-25 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
I just upgraded to GCC 4.1.1 and when I did my world emerge kdelibs died
with this:
grep: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file
or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la' is
not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [libkio.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5'
make: *** [all] Error 2
What's going on?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1
2007-04-25 19:00 [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-25 19:06 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-04-26 11:41 ` Mark Haney
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-04-25 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Mittwoch, 25. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
> I just upgraded to GCC 4.1.1 and when I did my world emerge kdelibs died
> with this:
>
> grep: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file
> or directory
> /bin/sed: can't read
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file or
> directory
> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la' is
> not a valid libtool archive
> make[3]: *** [libkio.la] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> What's going on?
you should run fix_libtool_files.sh
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1
2007-04-25 19:06 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-04-26 11:41 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-26 11:51 ` [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 UPDATE Mark Haney
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-26 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 25. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
>> I just upgraded to GCC 4.1.1 and when I did my world emerge kdelibs died
>> with this:
>>
>> grep: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file
>> or directory
>> /bin/sed: can't read
>> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file or
>> directory
>> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la' is
>> not a valid libtool archive
>> make[3]: *** [libkio.la] Error 1
>> make[3]: Leaving directory
>> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> make[2]: Leaving directory
>> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kio'
>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> make[1]: Leaving directory
>> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10/work/kdelibs-3.5.5'
>> make: *** [all] Error 2
>>
>> What's going on?
>
> you should run fix_libtool_files.sh
>
I did that before I emerged world, I followed the wiki to the letter for
this upgrade. However, I did shut my system down after emerging system
and before emerging world (did make sure system rebuilt completely),
could that have something to do with it?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 UPDATE
2007-04-26 11:41 ` Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-26 11:51 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-26 14:57 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-26 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
>>
>
> I did that before I emerged world, I followed the wiki to the letter for
> this upgrade. However, I did shut my system down after emerging system
> and before emerging world (did make sure system rebuilt completely),
> could that have something to do with it?
>
>
I completely walked back through the upgrade process last night. After
an emerge of system, I still do not have that file in
/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1. Is that file not supposed to
have been created with fix_lib_tools.sh?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 UPDATE
2007-04-26 11:51 ` [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 UPDATE Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-26 14:57 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2007-04-26 21:43 ` [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH! Mark Haney
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From: Daniel Gryniewicz @ 2007-04-26 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 07:51 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
> >>
> >
> > I did that before I emerged world, I followed the wiki to the letter for
> > this upgrade. However, I did shut my system down after emerging system
> > and before emerging world (did make sure system rebuilt completely),
> > could that have something to do with it?
> >
> >
>
> I completely walked back through the upgrade process last night. After
> an emerge of system, I still do not have that file in
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1. Is that file not supposed to
> have been created with fix_lib_tools.sh?
>
I don't think that file is supposed to exist at all; at least, I have
libstdc++.a and libstdc++.so, but not libstdc++.la. No,
fix_libtool_files.sh won't create any .la files; what it does is scan
your system looking for .la files with hard references to the old (now
gone) compiler, and fix them to point to the new compiler. I'd guess
that this is your problem: some .la file on your system had a pointer to
libstdc++.la on the old compiler, which was fixed to point to the new
compiler, but gcc is no longer installing that file. Try this:
Run:
find / -name "*.la" -exec grep -H libstdc++.la {} \;
For each hit, use equery b (or equivalent) to find out which package
owns that file, and re-emerge that package. I'd guess that should solve
your problem, although you may find some of those packages depend on
each other, so the order of re-emerging may be important.
Daniel
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-26 14:57 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
@ 2007-04-26 21:43 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-26 22:05 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-26 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 07:51 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
>>> I did that before I emerged world, I followed the wiki to the letter for
>>> this upgrade. However, I did shut my system down after emerging system
>>> and before emerging world (did make sure system rebuilt completely),
>>> could that have something to do with it?
>>>
>>>
>> I completely walked back through the upgrade process last night. After
>> an emerge of system, I still do not have that file in
>> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1. Is that file not supposed to
>> have been created with fix_lib_tools.sh?
>>
Well, I gotta say my attempt to move to gcc 4.1.1 has been a total
disaster. KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
So, since if it isn't broke don't fix it, I'm sticking with 3.4.6.
So far, I'm o for 2 with gcc upgrades. Once on i386 and now this one.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-26 21:43 ` [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH! Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-26 22:05 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-04-26 22:12 ` Mark Haney
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From: Bo Ørsted Andresen @ 2007-04-26 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
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On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
> Well, I gotta say my attempt to move to gcc 4.1.1 has been a total
> disaster. KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following is:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-26 22:05 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
@ 2007-04-26 22:12 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-26 22:47 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-26 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
>> Well, I gotta say my attempt to move to gcc 4.1.1 has been a total
>> disaster. KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
>> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
>
> What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following is:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
>
Yes, this is the page I was following. I called it wiki in the generic
sense. Still doesn't change the fact that a gcc upgrade just doesn't
work for me.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-26 22:12 ` Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-26 22:47 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-04-27 11:10 ` Mark Haney
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From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. @ 2007-04-26 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
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On Thursday 26 April 2007, "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1
UPDATE - AAAGH!':
> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
> >> KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
> >> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
> >
> > What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following
> > is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
>
> Yes, this is the page I was following. I called it wiki in the generic
> sense.
WTH does that mean? Last I checked, the official Gentoo documentation
wasn't community-editable which would seem requisite for something called
a wiki.
Or has wiki gotten so general now it just means "web page"?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-26 22:47 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
@ 2007-04-27 11:10 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-27 11:33 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-27 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2007, "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote
> about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1
> UPDATE - AAAGH!':
>
>> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
>>>> KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
>>>> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
>>>>
>>> What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following
>>> is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
>>>
>> Yes, this is the page I was following. I called it wiki in the generic
>> sense.
>>
>
> WTH does that mean? Last I checked, the official Gentoo documentation
> wasn't community-editable which would seem requisite for something called
> a wiki.
>
> Or has wiki gotten so general now it just means "web page"?
>
>
Good grief. Okay, I stand corrected, it's NOT a wiki. I fail to see
that _that_ is the real issue here.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-27 11:10 ` Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-27 11:33 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-04-27 11:53 ` Mark Haney
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-04-27 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Freitag, 27. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 April 2007, "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote
> > about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1
> >
> > UPDATE - AAAGH!':
> >> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
> >>>> KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
> >>>> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
> >>>
> >>> What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following
> >>> is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
> >>
> >> Yes, this is the page I was following. I called it wiki in the generic
> >> sense.
> >
> > WTH does that mean? Last I checked, the official Gentoo documentation
> > wasn't community-editable which would seem requisite for something called
> > a wiki.
> >
> > Or has wiki gotten so general now it just means "web page"?
>
> Good grief. Okay, I stand corrected, it's NOT a wiki. I fail to see
> that _that_ is the real issue here.
>
for some it is an issue - the gentoo wiki is know for dubious information. ;)
So when you say you followed 'the wiki', wrong information there is the first
thought.
Hm, your problem is strange - a lot of KDE using people did not have your
problem. Have you searched the gentoo bugzilla?
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-27 11:33 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-04-27 11:53 ` Mark Haney
2007-04-27 11:57 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-27 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Freitag, 27. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
>
>> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 26 April 2007, "Mark Haney" <mhaney@ercbroadband.org> wrote
>>> about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1
>>>
>>> UPDATE - AAAGH!':
>>>
>>>> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:43:41 Mark Haney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> KDElibs refuses to compile regardless of what I try to do,
>>>>>> even after re-reading and following the wiki page about the upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What wiki? Why are you following a wiki? What you should be following
>>>>> is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is the page I was following. I called it wiki in the generic
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>> WTH does that mean? Last I checked, the official Gentoo documentation
>>> wasn't community-editable which would seem requisite for something called
>>> a wiki.
>>>
>>> Or has wiki gotten so general now it just means "web page"?
>>>
>> Good grief. Okay, I stand corrected, it's NOT a wiki. I fail to see
>> that _that_ is the real issue here.
>>
>>
>
> for some it is an issue - the gentoo wiki is know for dubious information. ;)
>
> So when you say you followed 'the wiki', wrong information there is the first
> thought.
>
> Hm, your problem is strange - a lot of KDE using people did not have your
> problem. Have you searched the gentoo bugzilla?
>
Honestly? No. But that's not out of ignorance, it's simply a matter of
time. I am hoping that at some point, I'll tackle the upgrade again
when I have time to debug the issue. Believe me, I'm aggravated about
it, but not about Gentoo in general. I was expecting it to be a simple
enough matter like most things are in Gentoo, but it wasn't. I'll debug
the problem when I get time.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-27 11:53 ` Mark Haney
@ 2007-04-27 11:57 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-04-27 12:03 ` Mark Haney
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-04-27 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
On Freitag, 27. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
> >
> > Hm, your problem is strange - a lot of KDE using people did not have your
> > problem. Have you searched the gentoo bugzilla?
>
> Honestly? No. But that's not out of ignorance, it's simply a matter of
> time. I am hoping that at some point, I'll tackle the upgrade again
> when I have time to debug the issue. Believe me, I'm aggravated about
> it, but not about Gentoo in general. I was expecting it to be a simple
> enough matter like most things are in Gentoo, but it wasn't. I'll debug
> the problem when I get time.
hm, for me it was a simple update. Hassle free and everything. Very strange.
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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] kdelibs don't compile after upgrade to GCC4.1.1 UPDATE - AAAGH!
2007-04-27 11:57 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-04-27 12:03 ` Mark Haney
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From: Mark Haney @ 2007-04-27 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-amd64
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Freitag, 27. April 2007, Mark Haney wrote:
>
>>> Hm, your problem is strange - a lot of KDE using people did not have your
>>> problem. Have you searched the gentoo bugzilla?
>>>
>> Honestly? No. But that's not out of ignorance, it's simply a matter of
>> time. I am hoping that at some point, I'll tackle the upgrade again
>> when I have time to debug the issue. Believe me, I'm aggravated about
>> it, but not about Gentoo in general. I was expecting it to be a simple
>> enough matter like most things are in Gentoo, but it wasn't. I'll debug
>> the problem when I get time.
>>
>
> hm, for me it was a simple update. Hassle free and everything. Very strange.
>
Welcome to my world. I pull 'strangeness' to myself like a weird black
hole.
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