[gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Hi, everyone

I'm trying not to load "XFree86-DGA" extension as advised in
http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/NVidia, because I have a* nVidia* based
video card. So, my "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" looks like this:

--snip--
Section "Module"
       Load  "extmod"

           SubSection "extmod"
              Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
           EndSubSection

        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "type1"
EndSection
--snip---

...but after restarting X my "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" reads:

--snip--
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
--snip--


Reading "man xorg.conf" I found this: "The Module section is used to
specify which Xorg  server  modules  should be loaded. This section is
ignored when the Xorg server is built in static form."

Am I doing something wrong or xorg-serve is built in static form even
without the "static" use-flag?


emerge -pv xorg-server

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies ... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1  USE="aiglx nptl sdl xorg
(-3dfx) -debug -dmx -dri -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -xprint"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron
-digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit -hyperpen
-jamstudio -joystick -magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount
-spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev
-fglrx -glint -i128 (-i740) -i810 (-impact) (-imstt) -mach64 -mga
-neomagic (-newport) (-nsc) -nv -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge
-savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3)
(-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l
-vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo" 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB


Any ideas how to deal with this will be much appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Jan Jitse Venselaar]

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On Friday 12 January 2007 08:41, Daniel Iliev wrote:
>
> Any ideas how to deal with this will be much appreciated.
>
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> Best regards,
> Daniel
I have exactly the same "issue". I'm not sure it is a problem though. 
Xorg-server is not statically linked:

localhost # file /usr/bin/Xorg
/usr/bin/Xorg: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for 
GNU/Linux 2.6.17, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

Nothing seems to really fail because of this DGA library though, so I'm not 
sure there is a problem.

Jan Jitse

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Jan Jitse Venselaar wrote:
> On Friday 12 January 2007 08:41, Daniel Iliev wrote:
>   
>> Any ideas how to deal with this will be much appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>>     
> I have exactly the same "issue". I'm not sure it is a problem though. 
> Xorg-server is not statically linked:
>
> localhost # file /usr/bin/Xorg
> /usr/bin/Xorg: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for 
> GNU/Linux 2.6.17, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
>
> Nothing seems to really fail because of this DGA library though, so I'm not 
> sure there is a problem.
>
> Jan Jitse
>   

OMG! Where is my mind? Of course I had to test it with the "file" utility:

file /usr/bin/Xorg
/usr/bin/Xorg: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

It's not a problem here also. I have no troubles with X but I wanted to
try compiz with nVidia. Everything started when I accidentally found
this site: "http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Main_Page". Following the
advices I tried to stop DGA and found that it doesn't work for me and
then I sent my question here. I want to be sure I'm not doing something
wrong before submitting a bug report.

So, is there anyone (besides both of us) in the same situation?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Richard Fish]

On 1/12/07, Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com> wrote:
>        Load  "extmod"
>
>            SubSection "extmod"

man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify the
same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other, not both.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Richard Fish wrote:
>
> man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify the
> same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other, not both.
>
> -Richard


I tried this:
--snip--
Section "Module"
#       Load  "extmod"

           SubSection "extmod"
              Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
           EndSubSection

        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "type1"
EndSection
--snip--

and got the same result.
Let me rephrase the question: I want to load all extensions provided by
"extmod", all but "xfree86-dga". How should I do this?


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com> wrote:
>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
> Let me rephrase the question: I want to load all
> extensions provided by
> "extmod", all but "xfree86-dga". How should I do
> this?
Did you try using the exact cases as in the man page?
There is says XFree86-DGA not xfree86-dga. I have no
idea if the X server is actualy case sensitive, it's
just an idea.


 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Andrei Slavoiu wrote:
> --- Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com> wrote:
>   
>>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
>> Let me rephrase the question: I want to load all
>> extensions provided by
>> "extmod", all but "xfree86-dga". How should I do
>> this?
>>     
> Did you try using the exact cases as in the man page?
> There is says XFree86-DGA not xfree86-dga. I have no
> idea if the X server is actualy case sensitive, it's
> just an idea.
>
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Yes, I've already tried that - no change.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Friday 12 January 2007 23:45, Daniel Iliev wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify the
> > same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other, not both.
> >
> > -Richard
>
> I tried this:
> --snip--
> Section "Module"
> #       Load  "extmod"
>
>            SubSection "extmod"
>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"

I'm a bit late, but this line is wrong. It should probably be
Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"
(note the extra two double quotes).

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:31:54 +0100
Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> escribió:

> On Friday 12 January 2007 23:45, Daniel Iliev wrote:
> > Richard Fish wrote:
> > > man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify
> > > the same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other,
> > > not both.
> > >
> > > -Richard
> >
> > I tried this:
> > --snip--
> > Section "Module"
> > #       Load  "extmod"
> >
> >            SubSection "extmod"
> >               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
> 
> I'm a bit late, but this line is wrong. It should probably be
> Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"
> (note the extra two double quotes).
> 
> Paul
> 

To quote the xorg.conf man page

MODULE SECTION
[...]
       Example: the extmod module (which contains a miscellaneous group
of server extensions) can be loaded, with the XFree86-DGA extension
disabled by using the following entry:

           SubSection "extmod"
              Option  "omit XFree86-DGA"
           EndSubSection

The same is true for xfree86.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> El Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:31:54 +0100
> Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> escribió:
>
>   
>> On Friday 12 January 2007 23:45, Daniel Iliev wrote:
>>     
>>> Richard Fish wrote:
>>>       
>>>> man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify
>>>> the same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other,
>>>> not both.
>>>>
>>>> -Richard
>>>>         
>>> I tried this:
>>> --snip--
>>> Section "Module"
>>> #       Load  "extmod"
>>>
>>>            SubSection "extmod"
>>>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
>>>       
>> I'm a bit late, but this line is wrong. It should probably be
>> Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"
>> (note the extra two double quotes).
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>     
>
> To quote the xorg.conf man page
>
> MODULE SECTION
> [...]
>        Example: the extmod module (which contains a miscellaneous group
> of server extensions) can be loaded, with the XFree86-DGA extension
> disabled by using the following entry:
>
>            SubSection "extmod"
>               Option  "omit XFree86-DGA"
>            EndSubSection
>
> The same is true for xfree86.
>   




I gave a try to

  Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"

and to

  Option "omit" "XFree86-DGA"

and it makes no difference:

  grep DGA /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Michel Merinoff]

Daniel Iliev wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>   
>> El Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:31:54 +0100
>> Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> escribió:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> On Friday 12 January 2007 23:45, Daniel Iliev wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Richard Fish wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> man xorg.conf.  "Load" and "SubSection" are two ways to specify
>>>>> the same thing for modules, so you should use one or the other,
>>>>> not both.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Richard
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> I tried this:
>>>> --snip--
>>>> Section "Module"
>>>> #       Load  "extmod"
>>>>
>>>>            SubSection "extmod"
>>>>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> I'm a bit late, but this line is wrong. It should probably be
>>> Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"
>>> (note the extra two double quotes).
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> To quote the xorg.conf man page
>>
>> MODULE SECTION
>> [...]
>>        Example: the extmod module (which contains a miscellaneous group
>> of server extensions) can be loaded, with the XFree86-DGA extension
>> disabled by using the following entry:
>>
>>            SubSection "extmod"
>>               Option  "omit XFree86-DGA"
>>            EndSubSection
>>
>> The same is true for xfree86.
>>   
>>     
>
>
>
>
> I gave a try to
>
>   Option "omit" "xfree86-dga"
>
> and to
>
>   Option "omit" "XFree86-DGA"
>
> and it makes no difference:
>
>   grep DGA /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>   (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
>
>
>   
Try cutting out "extra double quotes". :) Without it works just fine.

michelle video # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep omit
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
michelle video # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DGA

(no output)

		
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Michel Merinoff wrote:
>
> Try cutting out "extra double quotes". :) Without it works just fine.
>
> michelle video # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep omit
>       Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
> michelle video # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DGA
>
> (no output)
>
> 	

Perhaps you don't have the start of this thread. This is how it looks
here and that's the reason I asked the question:

Section "Module"
       Load  "extmod"

           SubSection "extmod"
              Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
           EndSubSection

        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "type1"
EndSection

grep -i DGA /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com> wrote:
> Perhaps you don't have the start of this thread.
> This is how it looks
> here and that's the reason I asked the question:
> 
> Section "Module"
>        Load  "extmod"
> 
>            SubSection "extmod"
>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
>            EndSubSection
Hmm, I was under the impresion you allready got an
answer for this problem, anyway the problem is that
you try to load "extmod" twice, first with DGA and
another time without it.
Just remove the Load "extmod" line, as SubSection
itself is enough to load the module.


 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] [SOLVED] Is Xorg server built in static form?

[Daniel Iliev]

Andrei Slavoiu wrote:
> --- Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com> wrote:
>   
>> Section "Module"
>>        Load  "extmod"
>>
>>            SubSection "extmod"
>>               Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
>>            EndSubSection
>>     
> Hmm, I was under the impresion you allready got an
> answer for this problem, anyway the problem is that
> you try to load "extmod" twice, first with DGA and
> another time without it.
> Just remove the Load "extmod" line, as SubSection
> itself is enough to load the module.
>
>   


This solved the "problem".
Thank you guys, thank you Andrei!

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