From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FHQvl-0003s0-1a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:36:13 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k29JW40w013644; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:32:04 GMT Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k29JW3Nt016891 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:32:03 GMT Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Mar 2006 19:32:03 -0000 Received: from d126223.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [192.168.2.189]) [80.171.126.223] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2006 20:32:03 +0100 X-Authenticated: #25576946 Message-ID: <441082B2.5080408@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:32:02 +0100 From: Marco Matthies User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] VMware Player on Gentoo question References: <5bdc1c8b0603071706p4b9ea8bay8b137d4f7f136f7e@mail.gmail.com> <200603080725.02309.tcoulon@decoulon.ch> <5bdc1c8b0603081845l1f03e96er4631911408fd85b8@mail.gmail.com> <200603091344.27194.tcoulon@decoulon.ch> <4410562C.8040601@gmx.net> <5bdc1c8b0603091028o2589113dpe3355e210b690e78@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0603091028o2589113dpe3355e210b690e78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: 4611c7ae-409c-4aba-9566-1cd6e628708c X-Archives-Hash: bbb3578b2d2a1f1b89f8583bb60959c2 Mark Knecht wrote: > Interesting, but I wonder whether a guitar player / chip designer type > guy could set it up? Spartanic is not generally a good environment for > the likes of us. Qemu at the moment is a command-line app, with the graphical output in a window, though I believe to have heard of gui frontends but never actually used one. VMWare has a graphical configuration and some extra convenience features that make it somewhat easier to use (e.g. bridged networking is a lot easier to set up and the VMware tools for windows have some nice extra features). In time, these convenience features will probably be incorporated into qemu, too. I don't know about Parallels, never tried it. I would suggest trying out the trial versions of VMware and Parallels to see if you want to pay for them. As to qemu, the qemu documentation [1] and user forums [2] will probably have some useful info. There is also a nice repository of free os images that are ready to use [3]. > The web page say this module is closed source. If that's the case then > why qemu vs. VMware vs. Parallels? Well kqemu is gratis, and if you insist on free you can use qvm86, though that might be less tested. As a kernel module can always take down your machine, i prefer the one a lot of people test -- i'm lazy :) I don't know the history as to why kqemu is closed source (all of the author's other projects are open-source), but i'm hopeful that will change. > Thanks. It's very intersting. How does this compare to BOCHS? To my knowledge bochs is a lot slower than qemu even without kqemu. I've never tried it myself though as i've always been happy with qemu, so that might all be lies :) Wikipedia has a nice page comparing emulation/virtualization/... solutions [4]. Marco [1] http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/user-doc.html [2] http://qemu.dad-answers.com/ [3] http://free.oszoo.org/ [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list