[gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[Hamish Marson]

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I have a problem with emerging kde... ever since going to 2005.0 I get

damned ~ # emerge -pv kde

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kcheckpass-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/khotkeys-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/konqueror-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kcminit-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdesu-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/ksplashml-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/konsole-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kwin-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kreadconfig-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdesktop-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/ksmserver-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-data-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kcontrol-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdm-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/libkonq-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1)
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1  +arts +cups -debug -hal
+ieee1394 -java -kdeena
blefinal -ldap +lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr +opengl -pam
+samba +ssl -xinerama 0 k
B
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 [3.4.2-r1] +arts +crypt -debug
- -gnokii -kdeenablefin
al -pda -xinerama 11,061 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 9,1
92 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal +opengl -xi
nerama +xscreensaver 17,600 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -rdesktop (
- -slp) +ssl +wifi -xinerama -xmms 7,192 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3 [3.4.2-r2] +arts -debug
+gphoto2 -imlib -kdeena
blefinal -nodrm -openexr +opengl +povray -scanner -tetex -xinerama
6,400 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 3,09
3 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 [3.4.2] +arts +crypt -debug
- -kdeenablefinal (-p
bbuttonsd) +snmp -xinerama 2,204 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug -doc
- -kdeenablefinal -tidy -
xinerama 5,804 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 1,4
84 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +alsa +arts
- -audiofile -debug -encode
 -flac -gstreamer -jack -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -musicbrainz -speex
- -theora +vorbis +xine -xi
nerama 5,366 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 [3.4.2] +arts +berkdb -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -sdl
 -xinerama -xmms 1,555 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 [3.4.2-r2] +arts -debug
- -kdeenablefinal -kig-scr
ipting -xinerama 23,421 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kde-3.4.3 [3.4.2] -accessibility 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 94,378 kB
damned ~ #


info is

damned ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.0.53_rc5 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.4,
glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.13-gentoo-r1 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.13-gentoo-r1 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre8
dev-lang/python:     2.3.4-r1, 2.4.1-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.13
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.20
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env
/usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3.4/env
/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown
/usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
/var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="amd64 3dnowex X acpi acpi4linux alsa arts avi berkdb bluetooth
cdda cddb clamav crypt css cups directfb dvd dvdr dvdread ethereal
exif fb fbcon fbdev font-server freetype ggi gif gimp gimpprint
gkrellm glut gnuplot gphoto2 gps gtk ieee1394 ipcs irmc jpeg kde
kdepim koffice-plugin lcd libclamav lm_sensors lzo lzw mad maildir
mapeditor mjpeg mpeg mpeg4 mysql mythtv nptl nptlonly ogg oggvorbis
opengl perl povray rrdtool samba screenshot snmp speedo ssl sysfs
threads truetype truetype-fonts type1 type1-fonts vcd vcdimager vorbis
wifi xine xscreensaver xv xvid zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS,
PORTDIR_OVERLAY


So what's gone wrong now? I even rmeoved kde & started again, and just
seem to be back to square one again...
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge kde problems

[Anthony Gorecki]

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On Saturday, October 29, 2005 02:48, Hamish Marson wrote:
> So what's gone wrong now? I even rmeoved kde & started again, and just
> seem to be back to square one again...

You're attempting to use the monolithic and segregated KDE packages at the 
same time. As far as I know, that isn't supported.

If you want kmail, for example, just emerge the kmail package. You don't need 
kdebase, kdepim, and so forth.


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[gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge kde problems

[Duncan]

Anthony Gorecki posted <200510290256.15093.agorecki@ectrolinux.com>,
excerpted below,  on Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:56:11 -0700:

> On Saturday, October 29, 2005 02:48, Hamish Marson wrote:
>> So what's gone wrong now? I even rmeoved kde & started again, and just
>> seem to be back to square one again...
> 
> You're attempting to use the monolithic and segregated KDE packages at the
> same time. As far as I know, that isn't supported.
> 
> If you want kmail, for example, just emerge the kmail package. You don't
> need kdebase, kdepim, and so forth.

Just what I was going to post, but I've some more details/exceptions to
add.

*  Basically, I think you got confused between kde-meta and simple kde. 
See the last point below, but if some split packages are already merged,
you problaby want kde-meta, not plain kde.

*  Even for the split packages, arts and kdelibs are monolithic, just as
they'd be with the full monolithic builds.  All the KDE builds depend on
kdelibs and if USE=arts, arts.  After that, one can merge individual
packages as desired and additional dependencies will be pulled in as
needed.  (Here, with a dual Opteron and kde builds that don't parallelize
that well, I'll often run three builds, each with -j3, at once.  That
won't work with kmail if you use USE=kdeenablefinal tho unless you have
LOTS of memory, as with enablefinal active, I watched one particular
compile thread climb to something like 780MB at one point (on the
kde-3.5-betas, but kmail has been a compile time memory hog for several
releases at least), and I'm not even sure that was the max it used, only
the max I SAW it use!

*  I haven't actually tried it, but I /believe/ all you have to do is
ensure you don't merge any of the split packages from the specific
monolithic package they originate in, to avoid the blockage.  kdebase, for
one, since it's all basic stuff mostly needed to run the environment or
konqueror or as a dependency for other packages anyway, could also
probably be merged from monolithic.  I believe the devs said that the
monolithic packages each provide the packages they include, as well as
blocking them, so there should be no dependency problems as long as you
don't merge any split packages from a monolithic package you plan to merge.

*  If you just want everything without spending the time to pick and
choose, emerge kde-meta, rather than kde, and it should merge just fine,
without blocking on the individual split packages you apparently already
have installed.

IOW, kde-meta <> kde.  The same files are ultimately merged, yes, but
kde-meta does it by merging the individual split packages, while kde will
attempt to merge the monolithic packages, and will fail with block errors
if any of the split packages are already merged.  Thus, once you have
split packages merged, either use kde-meta, or unmerge all the split
packages and merge kde before trying anything else.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[Sebastian Redl]

Hamish Marson wrote:

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>I have a problem with emerging kde... ever since going to 2005.0 I get
>
>  
>
It seems that you have a few packages from the split ebuild version of 
KDE installed. Since the grouped ebuilds and the split ebuilds contain 
the same programs, they block each other.

I recommed completely cleaning out everything from kde-base and starting 
anew then. (I'd install the split ebuilds then, but it's your call.)

Sebastian Redl
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[Hamish Marson]

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Sebastian Redl wrote:

> Hamish Marson wrote:
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>> I have a problem with emerging kde... ever since going to 2005.0
>> I get
>>
>>
>>
> It seems that you have a few packages from the split ebuild version
> of KDE installed. Since the grouped ebuilds and the split ebuilds
> contain the same programs, they block each other.
>
> I recommed completely cleaning out everything from kde-base and
> starting anew then. (I'd install the split ebuilds then, but it's
> your call.)
>

Yeah... I thought I'd already been that route once already... It would
be nice to know why the system thinks it has kde-base (Grouped?)
installed, when trying to unmerge it says that it isn't installed at
all...



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[Harm Geerts]

The reason it blocks is because you have other packages installed that depend 
on kde-base/kdebase. For example:  kde-base/kdepim and kde-base/kdenetwork
These are all part of the monolithic packages.

First you'll have to make a choice between monolithic (grouped) and segregated 
(split). Once you've made your choice you should unmerge all kde packages 
that belong to the type you don't want. You can recognize monolithic packages 
as they have a "kde-base/<packagename>-meta" replacement which use the split 
packages.

On Tuesday 01 November 2005 23:59, Hamish Marson wrote:
> Sebastian Redl wrote:
> > Hamish Marson wrote:
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> >> I have a problem with emerging kde... ever since going to 2005.0
> >> I get
> >
> > It seems that you have a few packages from the split ebuild version
> > of KDE installed. Since the grouped ebuilds and the split ebuilds
> > contain the same programs, they block each other.
> >
> > I recommed completely cleaning out everything from kde-base and
> > starting anew then. (I'd install the split ebuilds then, but it's
> > your call.)
>
> Yeah... I thought I'd already been that route once already... It would
> be nice to know why the system thinks it has kde-base (Grouped?)
> installed, when trying to unmerge it says that it isn't installed at
> all...
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge kde problems

[Hamish Marson]

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Harm Geerts wrote:

> The reason it blocks is because you have other packages installed
> that depend on kde-base/kdebase. For example: kde-base/kdepim and
> kde-base/kdenetwork These are all part of the monolithic packages.
>
> First you'll have to make a choice between monolithic (grouped) and
> segregated (split). Once you've made your choice you should unmerge
> all kde packages that belong to the type you don't want. You can
> recognize monolithic packages as they have a
> "kde-base/<packagename>-meta" replacement which use the split
> packages.
>

Ahh.... Thanks for that. I was wondering how I'd tell the difference..
Pity it wasn't a bit more obvious... e.g. kde-base-split/<package>..
Save me some embarrasment anyway :)

H



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