From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-amd64+bounces-11415-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MF67g-0006oE-ET for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:44:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3790E05D1; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676A1E05D1 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so141548fxm.34 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yZQKxVGqq89mxphqeRXAr5bfFS55Qgdaog2K4R9wtJk=; b=K4Efp0XAd2MIKx2iYv+dVtGqVbmgpoPr0FBrvP/VH9iFUwwG0S3PmVhLIxHyBTteFf ZXM5C60hZ7UhWOBLMCLNuBN0AnEjPKSmRBrsnUkjVK2HDzIs7ruMZU82T7MLLXq8wUYq zyr4w98EO9++GA9GyFtAJLkEDIMkF7mQgApN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o11r0Cem75yCj9qPqlYdtskDgTy704hDJ4LYutt124F1blWtlKMgV0XXTozom7mdys 87sd+1Q1cHvUhAZYvG2nrIXwjxWJ1n0LKS1eNOQlcmmDUwAuGlPEnbGWB2K2NJta/dKn YjqL12P7jUHWcIR1onz4nzn5TkSU9lKtU1BNk= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-amd64.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.221.14 with SMTP id y14mr1841054muq.111.1244810626797; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200906121316.02225.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> References: <4A314E27.7020806@ercbroadband.org> <200906112207.29889.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <225000070906120019t361a5e12k81b36f65eba6ec44@mail.gmail.com> <200906121316.02225.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:43:46 +0300 Message-ID: <225000070906120543q5ddd0b68oadd5935e34dc5e12@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE and kdeprefix From: Alex Alexander <alex.alexander@gmail.com> To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d3226378-6108-4cc3-b5a7-aff137349a74 X-Archives-Hash: 8be7c1293fd04bf347bcdfeeaddf200e On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 14:16, Volker Armin Hemmann<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Freitag 12 Juni 2009, Alex Alexander wrote: > Do I need to remind you that kde's own documentation once said that you should > install into /opt? into its own directory? > Maybe that changed, but the 'not designed for' is not correct. the whole problem arises with multiple versions. By saying Gentoo Thing i was talking about multiple simultaneous installations, not the default prefix. > and without prefix, you can not have multiple versions. > hmmm... yes obviously :) > I give you an example: > KDe 3.4 is installed, you want to try 3.5, you install it and switch when you > are ready. After an hour you realize that 3.5.0 is very buggy, no problem, you > just log in back to 3.4. > ... > Now, tell me, is that usefull for users or not? > And until recently it was the default. its useful, but buggy, thats the whole point of that ewarn. >> imho its better to just keep binary packages of stuff you've installed. >> if your update fails and you need your system asap, you just emerge >> your binaries back in no time :) no cp'ing or other strange >> out-of-portage stuff > > binary packages don't help you with your config changes or ither stuff you put > into the tree. they still help if the update breaks your system =] you should keep ~/.kde4 backups manually anyway :) -- Alex Alexander || wired Gentoo QT && KDE Herd Tester http://www.linuxized.com