From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A19138CCA for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30FCEE0AB2; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B555E09B9 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29576 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2015 22:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2015 22:10:42 -0000 Received: from box443.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.243]) by cmgw3 with id A4Aa1q0165Ejslx014AdTf; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:10:41 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Juti8qIC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=/JUv2DnxK4pQW9WQq9F1Lg==:117 a=/JUv2DnxK4pQW9WQq9F1Lg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=J0QyKEt1u0cA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=P8Bi1aziAAAA:8 a=1YONbhrXph8A:10 a=vY7NySYlIIwA:10 a=emO1SXQWCLwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Lhm-NdVtJdWo4OVicXUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from [66.41.30.59] (port=51531 helo=crud.chemoelectric.org) by box443.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YchtE-000106-9U for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:10:36 -0600 Received: by crud.chemoelectric.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 24E391460017; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:10:33 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Did devs change phonon flags without rev'ing package? Message-ID: <20150330221032.GA26091@crud> References: <20150330170458.67fbe3b2a92184b60e150742@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Identified-User: {1474:box443.bluehost.com:crudfact:crudfactory.com} {sentby:smtp auth 66.41.30.59 authed with crudfactory@crudfactory.com} X-Archives-Salt: 75efdc7a-620f-4c17-b40f-9c3e4fdadac0 X-Archives-Hash: 07b0b2ed36d34b4f69b2d0263127e05e Mark Knecht skribis: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Frank Peters wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:15:55 -0700 > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >> Yesterday I was emerge -DuN @world clean. It took hours due to Gentoo > >> decisions about multilib stuff. > >> > > > > Is it still necessary to be using multilib? > > > > I've been using pure AMD64 for so long I tend to forget that > > 32-bit stuff still exists. > > > > Frank Peters > > Hi Frank, > Honestly, I really don't know and figure the answer is probably no, > but it was when I set the machine up this way 5 or so years ago. Even > today I still see messages from things like Virtualbox drivers saying > they are using 32-bit modes, but what do I know? When emerge threw all > this stuff at me Sunday I figured I had no reason to break a machine > that has been working well so I let it do everything it wanted to do. > I don't have any problems with them getting rid of emulation libraries > and having everything built into the packages. I just wasn't prepare > for the time it required yesterday. I’m still working on it, myself. Various problems. Nothing I won’t be able to figure out. My list of things to build ~amd64 instead of amd64 is growing a bit, for instance. Had to fix one of my overlay ebuilds. Etc. Removed some 32-bit stuff at least temporarily. I do not use 32-bit stuff very often. The main problem at this case is emerge wanting to install libav despite that I’m set up for ffmpeg. These things happen. At least if you use emerge as your package manager, it’s probably safe to go ahead and uninstall the emul packages, if you haven’t. The binaries will stay in place until you build the replacements.