From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BDB138247 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFD5BE0978; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3909AE0974 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 0MG61p0024s37d401MK8ou; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:19:08 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 0MK71p00Z1GXozm01MK8zy; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:19:08 +0000 Received: by crud.chemoelectric.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id A1FAA1460E26; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:19:07 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Boycott Systemd Message-ID: <20141007211907.GA31440@crud> References: <20140923105558.eaed8b57d00ddd92818cec55@comcast.net> <20140924125822.d8e095ebc723398a31190a00@comcast.net> <20141007204358.GA29518@crud> <543452F8.4010507@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <543452F8.4010507@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1412716748; bh=kO14Qj4bq4KrUkQ7dDp/pPv/mORr67suQOkDTKmeJzM=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wRjizhQgtXuRKDZ83q/TiASpFgoLcz11qiLJeeD007IAZjy9kZ+LoeUMkSsLUZztj Yo3Bn5AZL7Iy3KNXYFqb9PZzJHnbhnISl7AHozCOscSeiT71AZAnfYJOMdIORTE7dW H4Up/OgpHqzRCdh7d2CO7GiLmyByOU2rOPIKFUKbS0V1lYis3FGBiuudSOmwWYQeyW oPL7y/fhRD3Ui+hCrhSERh4bzUz8ZKSbqKUs6hFcIaSAs8x6VAcG3MI9wTmjWyeH4O uKv8OpiAUgTzYbw6c24PWVaKHQIpQQVj5D/Y0dWD4c2xGgBJye4TkK2m3EzEgRBDCD tVL4cwXEYE1hQ== X-Archives-Salt: 4e5c9ba5-fbcb-4910-b45f-5d97195fba4d X-Archives-Hash: 5b0a9b187be3ec7383e6f3d9b59be652 Damien Levac skribis: > My humble opinion: > > If people want to work on a project, it is their own decision. That pertains to hobbyists. I’m purely a hobbyist, filling timek; I work on what I enjoy. Anyone who argues with that can keep it to themselves. But we are talking, instead, about profit and non-profit organizations that have goals and in some cases ask for our donations. Whose goals are being achieved? Are they the FSF’s, or are they Red Hat’s? How much do these goals overlap? Is one organization’s work hindering the stated goals of the other? Is Freedesktop.org serving the community well, or is it dysfunctional? Etc., etc. And are _many_ (not all) Gentoo users caught in the middle of something they do not want to be caught in? (My system still is working with OpenRC, so I am not sure how much caught in the middle I am. It is not time to panic.)