From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255C13838B for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B40DE0ADD; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95825E0ABD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uVqE1o0031c6gX859Vqsb7; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:50:52 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uVqr1o0071GXozm3jVqrcT; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:50:52 +0000 Received: by crud.chemoelectric.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 227C3146021E; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:50:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:50:51 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] grub2 upgrade fail (was Boycott Systemd) Message-ID: <20140923055051.GA3384@crud> References: <20140921171301.5f008b3bd12c21c2f8fdd67e@comcast.net> <20140921202600.08d082d88014228172007477@comcast.net> <20140922175846.GA22399@crud> <5420EE55.1000301@nagafix.co.uk> <20140923040750.GA30004@crud> <54210254.6000901@nagafix.co.uk> <20140923054244.GA2922@crud> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140923054244.GA2922@crud> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1411451452; bh=LfxkCnECwmRR/LyqPFswenJ+qymLfM9v4JvBWnmXOLo=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZlGv1jKUpOgFHDDz4hT7kPfd3VKQUtDCEzIq+YUJyhMZBvj/k2FuikhSX13ujph31 SlLoiz81x5m1jK/KRNm16MItGbCli+O6HrPvaNcE2bG1QlRjot2MfWqKIUaUbOZ5J2 Gj9nxtguwM3mgVznANCrPsDIPOqrpxnVPvIsn4pUY1ZhV/PnhsYhGuVG3yO5hLeqYn rSLuC6eb2GRcesWh5DYAng/h38OfhKmvnw6/5aGuy4iLAA8WncSfw/DzYkZrp/SD9H c/1TabtfRapuo/RJcNNDVjwqfTeponuv+ZVHYUyZMXoXR47yreWY06sQZWtTLYGhx/ Bh3AEqOr2o09w== X-Archives-Salt: 1a32f5f6-c280-4b31-b927-2b51900e4a4a X-Archives-Hash: b6921a1d01352f9e75492af05f426b19 Expanding on this: > Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] grub2 upgrade fail (was Boycott Systemd) > From: Barry Schwartz > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:42:44 -0500 > To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org > > Antoine Martin skribis: > > "Simple" and the large collection of scripts that is grub2 is not > > something I often hear in the same sentence ;) > > I don’t use any of the scripts, and just have a very simple, hand > edited grub config file. Lilo, however, has the huge advantage that it > tries to verify the config before it does anything hazardous. > > Grub 2 seems to me better than Grub 1 (though still not very good) if > you find yourself editing things at the Grub command line. However, if > it does not work on a given computer then this is what I call ‘a fact > of life’. :) See http://exherbo.org/docs/install-guide.html for how simple it can be to use GRUB 2, if you just ignore the hoopla. My own config is kmore complicated; it installs some fonts and has entries for memtest; but these are minor niceties. (Completely avoiding initrd by simply putting / and /usr on one filesystem is another of those measures you wouldn’t think existed if your experience were entirely Ubuntu, etc.)