From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B8E13838B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B51C0E0B14; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F444E0B05 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id uJH11o0031HzFnQ01KmEAz; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:46:14 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uKmD1o00T1GXozm3aKmDMC; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:46:14 +0000 Received: by crud.chemoelectric.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 28819146021E; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:46:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:46:13 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Message-ID: <20140922194613.GA29580@crud> References: <20140921192043.GA9652@crud> <20140921171301.5f008b3bd12c21c2f8fdd67e@comcast.net> <20140921202600.08d082d88014228172007477@comcast.net> <20140922175846.GA22399@crud> <20140922190858.GA26097@crud> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1411415174; bh=tTHGA1RqewfrGmhseQWMNw87h5zBPMdaml0tPCD9EZQ=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BJaw8hQ3+RFA3lXzjgPpMIsO7InuwkCuZizfvBtxKLI9yPKLttpDY2+4/AO0r14RR u2gE5rLoaMSYMuBL24ysBMooi8ssbgCJQexILRMg9iXUXTS/EephblR+rlaleSrDEi gBt/WMV1pqGBix+8MSK6HTD98fEPi2cfnPkTEH0UoTPYP4xetvJuDK+BWk3QiRImLW qu0hEmZwiz2sx9Sio8TjhvwoCubFiLPnyvVwghinGX+AliDZdAWgHY5aLPvjsB7xaE SoGELwpzYnugqatgnFQUpzdZLCAlKWzMP0wXZfYVsBMMiBoQxE7rErTuo5MkODLQPZ ZJb6r4JOV1rog== X-Archives-Salt: 3731241f-7f72-403e-9daa-075f27d78ecc X-Archives-Hash: 695c6c9c264e2bb72723297e55f3f4c9 Canek Peláez Valdés skribis: > So, I will finish with this: if you really believe that there are no > more new arguments for new paradigms and design principles, and that > PDP-11 Unix is the answer to life, the universe, and everything, then > go out and find and kill Buddha, please. Implications that one is being a quasi-religious mystic are among the predictable responses to criticism of current practices. As I say, the arguments go round and round in this field. We will, for instance, continue to have the article that says if only we copied what civil engineers do then everything would be okay. (It is the same article, ‘written’ over and over and over again. Somewhere I have a copy of the expansion of it into an entire book.)