From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C5F13838B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4BB2E09D5; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1616AE09AD for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id uJ7M1o0034vw8ds01J80wo; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:08:00 +0000 Received: from ajax ([24.11.47.14]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id uJ7z1o00N0JMh7c01J7z3V; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:08:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:07:54 -0400 From: Frank Peters To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Message-Id: <20140922140754.b5e12200007fe2952dbc7343@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20140921132548.d4ad54724473a2aeee688daa@comcast.net> <20140921143059.c3c16dfdeab6f65280b7caa6@comcast.net> <20140921192043.GA9652@crud> <20140921171301.5f008b3bd12c21c2f8fdd67e@comcast.net> <20140921202600.08d082d88014228172007477@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1411409280; bh=qv5/z5NU3DYfHFmp9zq01iRyfd20mehdN9a4kd4u4ns=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Content-Type; b=Vtt2TDOV2BPzLl51X8iwH6P3hs+YWWddOaP4mhtAsQkm7WRFkQU62bzIC3Tito8om +tzOLfWd7TgX0RUFOdGpTQEM+AXMk2w438QaEflDDKi6MRRWKaN0viTZIJkl2vAivx gY+YgfAN31mo+2MLLl+ry5GN1hCVX7Z6jpRC2VIkC+U94UAjy7VXHPXYWlqeakb569 dwO9Aa0Ndj3uZ6Bc5W5BwoZG/HV/Ba5BJ4taeG/EqccIXjovhflFoi8/OmPchRFSu7 4y1Hlh2seIsey2M/SksyGFGeTWG07pGOWj2akdlJrNqY//I+Y3n19Q99COV8Quqb2B Y93AA/+VgGtFg== X-Archives-Salt: abb07437-3d4d-429e-b73f-13690f726fea X-Archives-Hash: 867b689d23400f887d15eca0960b52da On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 03:04:10 +1000 Lie Ryan wrote: > > If you are not contributing to the solutions I use then don't be > surprised if my software goes to directions that do not accomodate > your own in-house stuffs. There are thousands of people with their own > in-house stuffs that breaks due to the changes, and thousands other > in-house that becomes easier due to the changes, why should I care > about yours in particular. If you want me to care about your stuffs, > then put it in the open, make it useful for more than just you, and > fight it out with other similar solutions. > Rigidity of design serves only to accommodate the ignorant dummy. A professional system is deliberately set up to allow infinite configuration and customization by an informed user base. In the Linux world there are distributions made for the dummy and there are distributions intended for informed users. The diversity made possible by the inherent and extensive configurability of Linux allows this. All developers should never lose sight of the need to keep the overall design open and flexible. Someone else mentioned the concept of "vertical integration." It is important to always understand this concept and how it can lead to a loss of flexibility and consequently a loss for the Linux community as a whole.