From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF5C13838B for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 948A3E08E6; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031A6E08E1 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id txCS1o0021wpRvQ5CxD8Sj; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:13:08 +0000 Received: from ajax ([24.11.47.14]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id txD71o00Z0JMh7c3exD8XW; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:13:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:13:01 -0400 From: Frank Peters To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Message-Id: <20140921171301.5f008b3bd12c21c2f8fdd67e@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20140921132548.d4ad54724473a2aeee688daa@comcast.net> <20140921143059.c3c16dfdeab6f65280b7caa6@comcast.net> <20140921192043.GA9652@crud> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1411333988; bh=VXyWIt7Jc+/4L9Oc14bylRDuULpMEoj4nKdhVL1Mezs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Content-Type; b=c4NeJyi8bLhFTpzefVQ1diUMRtxehDrhnHXZBsrAwWCnB/3oi38cu6cNL99KrZcT/ mZ8V4CEYS0qyn2dIbJDdX9qwAZ5CEVxpqts9/vJGPhpQ8eMKowTvg54mGSk4devQ1s T3zIBDItt6+z7AXnf+kzhE3C2PIOvpt1Qse3p4SdPsZubCq+RpV98Vjte+dVuLEHCl CK96wyP9GfXFs63KRQGXnI+kMEBSiFL3ItnuPkeAvs0q8Sa9KyRpz4Wr2tLOuovSGo cRnryX4ErMkqlT1X0kC+GG5t3HAbU2QRPqbStoiR2k1N2zckwRjpSBKuIi4A4LYn7v xOlvv33huUlHA== X-Archives-Salt: 9b9ca325-addf-4ae6-ba7c-cf9fbd9b0c72 X-Archives-Hash: 3dffb9615c98c6a95ab90a2d420b084e On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:22:38 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Barry Schwartz > wrote: > > The words ‘Red Hat’ have put a chill down my spine for nearly 20 > > years. > > I know, right? A company that actually pays money to developers so > they could work on Free Software. > Check out page 18 of the 2014 GNOME Asia talk: http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf "Our objectives: Turing Linux from a bag of bits into a competitive General Purpose Operating System. Building the Internet's Next Generation OS. Unifying pointless differences between distributions." Can it be any clearer that the Gnome (RedHat) folks desire to usurp total control of the Linux ecosystem to serve their own ends? RedHat needs Linux to make a profit and it will mold Linux to better attain this end. Is Linux currently just a "bag of bits." A lot of people would take serious issue with this inane comment, but according to the Gnome (RedHat) folks they are here to save us all from the terrible shortcomings of Linux (whether we want it or not). Notice the remark about the "pointless differences between distributions." This is nothing more than a disguised condemnation of the diversity, variety, and choice which has always been the strongest feature of the Linux world. Now check out page 5: "What's systemd again? ... The glue between the applications and the kernel." IOW, the kernel and the applications, once sufficient in themselves, will now require the product that they (RedHat/Gnome) make and control in order to function at all. Don't like it? Tough. Try and find a distribution without it, and good luck re-writing all this stuff from scratch all by your lonesome. But why stop here? All they need to do is get rid of Linus Torvalds himself. After all, he's just a nuisance from a previous and obsolescent generation. Let's have the truly progressive folks, like RedHat/Gnome, assume command of it all.