Re: [gentoo-amd64] Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things...

[Barry Schwartz <chemoelectric@chemoelectric.org>]

Frank Peters <frank.peters@comcast.net> skribis:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:40:59 -0500
> Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Honestly, there is no shortage of people offering their opinions.
> > What there is a shortage of is people actually doing work to make
> > (e)udev do anything differently.  In the end people can complain as
> > much as they want, but unless they fork over effort or dollars or
> > something they won't get terribly far.
> >
> 
> Work?  What work?
> 
> I have never used udev/eudev/mdev or anything similar and, if I am allowed
> to nave a choice, I never will.
> 
> Manually creating a /dev tree that perfectly reflects ones own system
> is rather trivial.  That's how Linux used to be and that's how Linux,
> for the most part, still is.  There is, or at least should be, no need
> for udev or any substitute for udev.
> 
> IOW, udev should be developed as a nice, helpful option for those who
> want such nice, helpful options.  But it always should be just that: optional.
> Once it stops being a choice then we begin to deviate greatly from
> the once sacrosanct principles of free software.

I second everything here. There is very little achieved by udev that
is of any appreciable benefit to a Gentoo user, who could easily
create nodes and set their permissions without having to do anything
complicated.

(Disclaimer: Currently I am using eudev, without pleasure.)