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Frank Peters <frank.peters@comcast.net> skribis:
> Fork?  Who's gonna take on that challenge?  It seems that a handful
> of developers, with their own special and exclusionary agenda, will control
> the Linux GE for all time.

Forking the bulk of this stuff isn’t very productive, because it’s not
good enough to improve upon significantly. At best what can be done by
forking is stuff like eudev, hacks to try to minimize the damage.

It’s just not competent software, as a whole. What am I to make of it,
that I have to use OpenBSD’s pkg-config clone, because the one from
freedesktop, the most basic piece of software in the system, does not
work correctly? I think they haven’t even done something as simple as
properly maintain the serial number of pkg.m4.