From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E41381F3 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B88A9E0A88; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E045CE0A40 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id f4GC1m0091smiN4014QUrw; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:24:28 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id f4QS1m00M1GXozm8g4QTYs; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:24:27 +0000 Received: by crud.chemoelectric.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 6047220271609; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:24:26 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wayland and X-Window Message-ID: <20131019162426.GA8092@crud> References: <20131018213609.f27bbd49807324d8b19a94ab@comcast.net> <20131019151140.GA29488@crud> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1382199868; bh=Wxk59A9u3I9bWzLcyhUJPmCZHPNHl6Gl2myLlNGhNKo=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iPXhJ+ABEOPytSM6UFq+ydp/sLpfvu6AcuHfcXIsz8/DEf0SM5XEftWJbXd7XfpJ+ IfN5CEyNYULByc6g+vpGdSrQIUKZKsXpfuDVtfBzticxogYr7PCsZHI247WrAj2tDx cWw+SxkZYD2JoT7Q64mcypCNT3SPU9V5jumk5blOe71YbKNrNUEpla52TErK3RRP/E ZnoaQS8lxc9wtLJl2trE6bXzG7yOqP0PdMbrtwjfCKOQkGkzQql0DVONN7l9URIKCq 2LwpqP2qqyiJDNVJ8Tw4YpXAHirm+pTUi4/th3jIOn7Pl9FV6DukbmmfBGjzQ5T3gL vVdpX0/3FULFQ== X-Archives-Salt: cb677a2b-bd69-40fe-ace9-6de3b12b0e28 X-Archives-Hash: fcf63dd24b0e17ea9344d1a41203ffee Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> skribis: > But I STILL can't figure out how someone can be a gnome gentooer, because > it just doesn't make sense to me as to me the gentoo and gnome approaches > are polar opposites. But they're out there. It’s not just that, but the Gnome approach is like the Microsoft/Apple approach, of reducing choice while at the same time forcing one into pet project, non-standard software. In this case, X is a very old and relatively stable standard throughout the Unix world, and so should not be treated as if it were an afterthought, no matter how much one loves one’s own ideas. I plan to resist change towards something else for as long as I can. I view Gentoo not only as flexible but also as rock-solidly conservative. So I have hope to be on solid ground for a long time to come. It’s one reason I came back to Gentoo after using Exherbo for a while -- those guys were following the trends too much for me!