From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050FC1381F3 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1C1DE0AF1; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151C4E09F7 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id f4Wb1m0020SCNGk5A51ikW; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:01:42 +0000 Received: from ajax ([24.11.47.14]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id f51i1m00J0JMh7c3V51iqB; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:01:42 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:01:33 -0400 From: Frank Peters To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wayland and X-Window Message-Id: <20131019130133.ec812df0266a813f3ba34927@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20131018213609.f27bbd49807324d8b19a94ab@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1382202102; bh=ELroMY9OV9mrhK0uUSAWolLsOsi0YX1zcX7KeeezH8Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Content-Type; b=AhcKIVp6EFdVCd2zDR5df/xjpdv+Wcm5wHEt+IB4vNnV6tRZwEVcr9pqn4lpH8m2n Nba79HLumOLfWQPKDxr4/6tN+vdNgWpUY2bWzXLsx0i2QqlVZxeVZ99crk8Lg7zNNj PvLOueMosdKaUeGlefjSpt1BjHds2nssAmpgfG+mrAdEWpQ1ZoWv+XEUjBRoeL78VP b/IH+PJRfUyXecwyZHaVfeyQqQEWgaYUqxvNPeFnkzzNzYNCCzVuZBn4nEDAgDHmL+ gzh5dVxnerICCLtwWa7PKgSOJwWTs1bi8jm0bZpx2pj2TY6/XQZVkkLjbR5CAGlH2I +00nVxL3KiCuA== X-Archives-Salt: c378544f-6aa3-437f-a9a5-585e040a301d X-Archives-Hash: 9122547ace5caed044043116c8c520d4 On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > * On the flip-side, it's worth noting that the wayland/weston devs and > xorg devs are generally the same people. After wayland gets going, their > focus is going to be almost entirely on it, > The X-Window system, which goes back to the 1980's, is probably overdue for replacement, and I would certainly welcome a modernized overhaul of the Linux graphics foundation. But I would also hate to see more "fascism" erupt as we are seeing with the freedesktop project. It's too bad that Torvalds himself could not oversee *all* of Linux/GNU development rather than just the kernel. Anyway, I would like to get started early with wayland. Doing an "emerge -pv" for both wayland and weston (and also GTK+3 with wayland enabled) does not show any requirements that I do not already have or could easily accommodate, and I may install everything now just to see what's what. I don't expect any definitive answer and I realize that I will have to do my own research, but would doing this simple emerge process with wayland/weston/gtk+3 provide, right now, a representative version of the final wayland/weston product? Or is the current Gentoo implementation just an incomplete step toward the final wayland? Frank Peters