From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641F81381F3 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5E66E0B2E; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07500E0AF4 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so3217483eak.4 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ottkUAQfjEm5ZdpBjFnUNvW2MPdB+LB6QV0HwlDgGKQ=; b=o1kAWxe/WG/q0rVVTP5vT6hKU5QnpGGrto5QHMR634nQ6vG5CJqX6bw3GymnwgB4VT fzfvRH8IyAZIZQ3K+vowu11hJUjpWuGXJjD1OEyRIY6B1+m7hyorX5vNsbCO7Mvs//Cj oQc+Vr41p9kTpG9dAbgcKEIMm1vtPRn4aZ4cYC5Zud0LDxIjwmninBNuw4ObTW5Hj3FF LIX9tlGK1Og/V9ytwkx6XG6UAur2/U3PLRDk9SR2zFtWTf+CB/IFBMnPUi3k0TOW7Nbv 035NGlAVtvKpnROQ9ay9aeJg1a1ryOZNft0Mzt8b1VYMpwosSX86xswXoafP1tA2iown hQNw== X-Received: by 10.14.111.9 with SMTP id v9mr44807633eeg.35.1377724708458; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([80.92.253.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm40681202eeg.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 23:18:25 +0200 From: Robert David To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Cc: hwpeters@jamadots.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Hard drive (installation) Message-ID: <20130828231825.3350ba1d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <521E6013.6010400@jamadots.com> References: <521E4E74.9020005@jamadots.com> <521E6013.6010400@jamadots.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b5222cfb-253c-4052-bf7d-644c7843a3e0 X-Archives-Hash: cd762e3c0f05a4b11cb67de8bf9a0250 Hy Henry, if your system is able to boot from USB it is not problem to deploy gentoo on external drive. You can just install gentoo on that drive the same way as you will install it on internal hdd. You will just install on /dev/sdb (or the correct drive). Also the grub can be placed there. Just think of it as a normal drive. Only difference is that you need usb, mass storage and correct filesystem modules in kernel builtin or in initramfs. When using external drive I would use better UUID when defining root in fstab/grub, or better use LVM (I would use zfs, but thats pretty different story). Yes there are desktops without second hdd bay, even without another sata connector, for example a lot of Dell SFF desktop computers. Robert. =20 On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:39:47 -0400 "Henry W. Peters" wrote: > On 8/28/2013 3:46 PM, czernitko wrote: > > Hi, it seems improbable that your desktop PC would have only one > > HDD slot. Could you post your exact model number please? :) > > To give you some hope, I have had Linux installed on external hdd > > for daily use for about two years. It is at least five years back, > > it was over USB 2.0 and worked quite well. I did some photo editing > > and retouching and it was ok. > > How big is your internal drive anyway? Isn't it possible to use > > around 30GB for Gentoo system partition? Or do you just want to > > keep original hdd intact? > > Regards, > > Peter > > =E2=80=8B > > Hi, > > If you really need a new drive (i.e. - the one that came with > > your machine is just too small, etc.) then I'd look at imaging the > > drive that's currently installed, putting in a larger drive, > > partitioning this larger drive to hold both Gentoo and what ever M$ > > OS you might be using, and then just work to get both OS's working > > but keep the current drive on the shelf as a backup. This way you > > could always go back to what you have. > > > > Just an idea. > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > To the point of the original poster: I currently use a Lenovo W520 > > laptop. I have a USB3 external hard drive that I mostly use for > > backup, but I have occasionally edited some audio (small audio > > files using Audacity) directly on the external drive. Again, it's > > not the OS drive, so temp files and such are most likely stored on > > the internal drive, but I know that Audacity operates in the > > directory in which the project is located, so it's still doing a > > fair bit of I/O to that external drive. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > ~David >=20 > Thanks all for helpful suggestions! >=20 > First off, capacity of current internal drive is not really an issue=20 > with me... it is 2 TB... I tried installing Gentoo on another (very > much older computer) a while ago & had problems installing Grub, with > Gentoo, as I was dual booting with windows (not to mention conflicts > with xstart & my old integrated SIS graphics card)... so my thinking > is to install Gentoo on a whole other HD... which seemed to work out > on my old computer (or perhaps it was simpler to do for a Gentoo > novice, like myself). >=20 > & Peter, I'm with you... I have not seen a desktop computer that > didn't have at least one expansion bay (not that I've seen that > many)... but apparently this HP Pavillion 500-046 does not. & I > really had to dig to find out (the hard way). >=20 > Good to hear that some have had some measure of success with external=20 > drives & Gentoo, rather sounds like I'll just have to try it... >=20 > I have done a little more research since my earlier post, & I see > that LaCie (& possibly others) make/sell an external drive that has > usb 2 & 3/firewire 400 & 800/eSata (& there are, it seems, some extra > Sata slots on the mother board of this HP computer). >=20 > My plan, in fact, after a installation of Gentoo... would be to > shrink the 2 TB partition that is currently formatted in NTS... > (Windows 8), use the other partition formatted in ext 4 (i.e., Linux) > data storage. >=20 > Henry > (who's trying hard to get away from windows, again (been using > various flavors of Linux for about five years) >=20 >=20