From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SB614-0003f3-MP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:02:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEB82E090F for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729B6E0824 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ozsY1i00527AodY580i6b9; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:42:06 +0000 Received: from ajax ([24.11.47.14]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p0i51i00X0JMh7c3f0i5Xv; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:42:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 08:41:43 -0400 From: Frank Peters To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Outside of portage (was Re: [gentoo-amd64] Kernel-3.3.0 and Nvidia-drivers) Message-Id: <20120323084143.a0d6777b.frank.peters@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20120322213254.GA26298@crud> References: <20120319121229.0a9ecd3b.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322144131.5f02745a.frank.peters@comcast.net> <20120322213254.GA26298@crud> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.3 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c08e89c9-5843-4e76-b84d-194a98596a83 X-Archives-Hash: 07f6a0e0faae73a22630316835773ca6 On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:32:55 -0500 Barry Schwartz wrote: >=20 > I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it > is a bad thing to upgrade unless you have to; and (b) the Grub 2 > ebuilds were broken anyway, and I didn=E2=80=99t want to switch back to= Grub 1 > when moving from Exherbo back to Gentoo. So I used the default GNU > install procedure in /usr/local. If the machine boots, the machine > boots, and I=E2=80=99m satisfied. >=20 For a person in my situation (i.e. single user, desktop system with no network beyond ISP connection) -- and I'm sure there are a lot of us out there -- I cannot see any advantage of grub over lilo. The Debian folks rescued lilo from near extinction because they recognized its utili= ty and there is a gentoo ebuild available. I hope lilo stays around forever. It is a sensible choice. Frank Peters