From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PQj1L-0001d2-9f for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:07:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A87E09E0 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 16:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E65AE085A for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gyX01f0021ei1Bg553KR3s; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:19:25 +0000 Received: from ajax.firstbooks ([68.40.15.84]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h3KR1f0051op4JC3k3KRZm; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:19:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:19:20 -0500 From: Frank Peters To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted. Message-Id: <20101209101920.fd3c138f.frank.peters@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4CFFF5DE.20303@gmail.com> <4D001CFF.60502@gmail.com> <201012081913.19278.stsander@sblan.net> <4D006571.7040807@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3bfc68c4-461e-45ff-a400-315e2ae51c21 X-Archives-Hash: f110419cb939a8af0727f51f66adc378 On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > > > Stan Sander wrote: > > >> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 > >> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute > >> grub at all. It's under file formats / Emulations in the menu. > > I think that's covered in the handbook, now, but posting's still good, > just in case it would have been overlooked. FWIW when I first switched to > no-multilib, before I did the 32-bit chroot thing, I tried turning off > that option in the kernel... and found I couldn't run... I think it was > lilo I was running at the time, properly, so it's definitely worth > remembering. > Lilo doesn't need the kernel at all. I have IA32 turned off and I use lilo to boot. There is no problem. Unless there is some special requirement, most people probably use grub because of the "follow the leader" syndrome. Lilo is still quite effective and also quite simple. Fortunately, the Gentoo overlords have not removed lilo from the portage tree, but if they ever do, I will just compile it myself. Continuous change is not a law of the universe. Some methods never become obsolete (out of fashion perhaps, but fashion should never be the final guide). Frank Peters