From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NrWQa-0006Sc-03 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:03:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 977E7E0C0B for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95.19.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3217E0C0F for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:15:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koeln.de Received: from smtp.uni-koeln.de (milter4.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95.19.193]) by smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2GCFCnW010094 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:15:12 +0100 X-MSA-SIP: [134.95.11.132] Received: from khi-prom03.localnet ([134.95.11.132]) by smtp.uni-koeln.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2GCFAfa018670 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:15:11 +0100 From: Sebastian =?utf-8?q?Be=C3=9Fler?= To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wine with no-multilib on AMD64 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:15:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.31-20-generic; KDE/4.4.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100313141534.GA7803@mars.lan> <4B9F4DFA.6000904@darkmetatron.de> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201003161315.09756.sebastian@darkmetatron.de> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 134.95.19.53 X-Archives-Salt: 11d3be30-c050-4815-a95f-9161ff8f5698 X-Archives-Hash: aa941d89deac95486254da0ac06ef23d Am Dienstag, 16. M=C3=A4rz 2010 12:01:38 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 03/16/2010 11:23 AM, Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler wrote: > > Am 16.03.2010 02:56, schrieb Duncan: > >> I posted the link to the guide in the doomsday thread pretty much > >> concurrently to the discussion here, but for convenience, here's the > >> link: > >>=20 > >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=3D1&cha= p=3D2 > >=20 > > What I don't like with this guide is that you have to be root to chroot > > into and run the applications as root inside of the chroot. >=20 > Wait a minute. You're telling me that all the people who posted that > they use chroot in order to have a "clean 64bit" system are actually > running all their 32bit application as root and still consider the > chroot a viable alternative to multilib? If you follow the guide word by word and do nothing more then: Yes, as far as I understand the guide. But it is "only" root in a chroot.. = I=20 know that is not better at all. =20 > I have only one word to describe this: >=20 > PHAIL. Exactly that is why I work something out to use my user account inside the= =20 chroot. I need the 32bit chroot because I have still some programms that I= =20 can't get to work with multilib on Gentoo. I tried already the multilib- overlay but that was a total failure for me.=20 Oh and I do it because I really like to try new (new for me at last) stuff = all=20 the time, if it is complicated then it is only better.. ;-) Thats why I lov= e=20 Gentoo, you can break so much so easy :-D Greetings Sebastian