[gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[sean]

I picked up a Bluetooth dongle and have gone through the steps here,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml

So on bluetooth startup I am supposed to get, per the instructions,
(Start up Bluetooth)
# /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
* Starting Bluetooth ...
*     Starting hcid ...       [ ok ]
*     Starting sdpd ...       [ ok ]
*     Starting rfcomm ...     [ ok ]

However on my system I do not see the sdpd line.
I have all the config options specified, and cannot figure out why?
Does this show up on amd64, or do I have missed something?
It is a broadcom based device.

I figure once that is correct, I will move on to the next step.


		Thanks
		Sean

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[Justin]

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sean wrote:
> I picked up a Bluetooth dongle and have gone through the steps here,
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml
> 
> So on bluetooth startup I am supposed to get, per the instructions,
> (Start up Bluetooth)
> # /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
> * Starting Bluetooth ...
> *     Starting hcid ...       [ ok ]
> *     Starting sdpd ...       [ ok ]
> *     Starting rfcomm ...     [ ok ]
> 
> However on my system I do not see the sdpd line.
> I have all the config options specified, and cannot figure out why?
> Does this show up on amd64, or do I have missed something?
> It is a broadcom based device.
> 
> I figure once that is correct, I will move on to the next step.
> 
> 
> 		Thanks
> 		Sean
> 

Hi,
I had a little fight last weekend with bluetooth and ended up with following working setup:


sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
sys-fs/udev-145
net-wireless/bluez-4.39
net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-2.27.9-r1

I case of more question I might help..


justin


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[sean]

Justin wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I had a little fight last weekend with bluetooth and ended up with following working setup:
> 
> 
> sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
> sys-fs/udev-145
> net-wireless/bluez-4.39
> net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-2.27.9-r1
> 
> I case of more question I might help..
> 
> 
> justin
> 

A fright?

You have the newer ~ versions of hal and udev than I have installed.
I do not have gnome-bluetooth installed, I am not using the gnome desktop.

You do see sdpd starting?

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[Justin]

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sean wrote:
> Justin wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I had a little fight last weekend with bluetooth and ended up with following working setup:
>>
>>
>> sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
>> sys-fs/udev-145
>> net-wireless/bluez-4.39
>> net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-2.27.9-r1
>>
>> I case of more question I might help..
>>
>>
>> justin
>>
> 
> A fright?
> 
> You have the newer ~ versions of hal and udev than I have installed.
> I do not have gnome-bluetooth installed, I am not using the gnome desktop.
> 
> You do see sdpd starting?
> 

No I don't.
I am using the gnome applet because it is working well. But it is also working wiht the console based tools.
I tried it the way the guide tells but I had no success with the old bluez-3 branch so upgraded to later
versions. I think most important was the upgrade of udev, but I cannot really remember. I don't even
have the daemon installed. What do you need it for?


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[sean]

Justin wrote:
>>
>> You do see sdpd starting?
>>
> 
> No I don't.
> I am using the gnome applet because it is working well. But it is also working wiht the console based tools.
> I tried it the way the guide tells but I had no success with the old bluez-3 branch so upgraded to later
> versions. I think most important was the upgrade of udev, but I cannot really remember. I don't even
> have the daemon installed. What do you need it for?
> 

Need bluetooth for?
File transfers for a hand held device I have.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

Unfortunately, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml is somewhat
outdated, as well as most of info that one can find on internet (especially if
one is interested in bluez-4.x)

In particular, already bluez-3.x series do not have sdpd daemon - its role is
played internally by hcid.

In bluez-4.x series hcid is renamed bluetoothd and configs are changed
significantly, if you decide to play with that version


> I picked up a Bluetooth dongle and have gone through the steps here,
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml
> 
> So on bluetooth startup I am supposed to get, per the instructions,
> (Start up Bluetooth)
> # /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
> * Starting Bluetooth ...
> *     Starting hcid ...       [ ok ]
> *     Starting sdpd ...       [ ok ]
> *     Starting rfcomm ...     [ ok ]
> 
> However on my system I do not see the sdpd line.
> I have all the config options specified, and cannot figure out why?
> Does this show up on amd64, or do I have missed something?
> It is a broadcom based device.
> 
> I figure once that is correct, I will move on to the next step.
> 
> 		Thanks
> 		Sean



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

> I am using the gnome applet because it is working well. But it is also
working wiht the console based tools.

What console tools are you using ? I did not find any reference to them 
for bluez-4.x besides sending commands by hand through dbus interface, 
or editing by hand files in  /var/lib/bluetooth/00:0A:50:F0:19:A1
(your MAC will differ)



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Dmitri Pogosyan            Department of Physics
Associate Professor        University of Alberta
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fax 1-780-492-0714         Edmonton, AB, T6G 2G7, CANADA

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[sean]

Dmitri Pogosyan wrote:
> Unfortunately, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml is somewhat
> outdated, as well as most of info that one can find on internet (especially if
> one is interested in bluez-4.x)
> 
> In particular, already bluez-3.x series do not have sdpd daemon - its role is
> played internally by hcid.
> 
> In bluez-4.x series hcid is renamed bluetoothd and configs are changed
> significantly, if you decide to play with that version
> 
> 

Sounds like it just managed to get harder.

So I should be installing bluez instead of
net-wireless/bluez-libs net-wireless/bluez-utils as the documentation
states?

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bluetooth Config

[Dmitri Pogosyan]

> 
> Sounds like it just managed to get harder.

It is, but perhaps not as a matter of principle. Seems that development is
focused entirely on bluetooth subsystem, leaving user side tools and user
level documentation far behind.

bluez-4.x has very primitive (and nowhere, except comments explained) config
files. Most of the management (like enabling/disabling services, pairing) is
done at runtime through d-bus commands. Since I did not find any command line
tools that do that, one has to rely on gnome-bluez or blueman (both of which
comes with some gnome dependancies, unfortunately).

In online docs you can get some hints and tips, but there is no coherent
description what to do, at least as far as bluetooth networking is concerned. 
I used the following links

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/noko/index.php?title=Gentoo_bluetooth_network_gateway_with_bluez-utils_3.*

(but dbus-send command is incorrect for bluez-4.x)

Correct dbus command I got from

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Information_about_bluez4_networking

and it is something like

dbus-send --system --dest=org.bluez --print-reply /org/bluez/`pidof
bluetoothd`/hci0  org.bluez.Adapter.GetProperties

(here ~amd64 d-feet utility is invaluable to find what d-bus interfaces and
methods you driver exposes).

http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN

(old, there is no pand daemon anymore, but finally explained to me when I am
supposed to see bnep0 devices, and what's there relation to pan0 device)


> 
> So I should be installing bluez instead of
> net-wireless/bluez-libs net-wireless/bluez-utils as the documentation
> states?

I did go with ~amd64 bluez-4.39 (since I had no previous setup anyway) and
spend last week on/off trying to configure networking with mobile phone.  Not
yet there, but apporaching ... (actually I got stuck yesterday trying to pair
two computers - not that I need it, but as a matter of principle, phone got
paired all right). 

BTW, bluez-4.39 has 'old-daemons' USE flag, which perhaps will give you sdpd
and pand to mimick old behaviour, but I have not tried that.


Good luck, and keep us posted on progress !


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Dmitri Pogosyan            Department of Physics
Professor                  University of Alberta
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