From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgkv2-00025h-RQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:46:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2584E091E; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD8DE091E for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zcov1c0050S2fkCA7cvCn4; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:55:12 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org ([66.41.30.59]) by OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZcvA1c00R1GXozm8VcvCiD; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:55:12 +0000 Received: from crud.chemoelectric.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crud.chemoelectric.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7S0sxDH019946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:55:04 -0500 Received: (from trashman@localhost) by crud.chemoelectric.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7S0swEB019942 for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:54:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:54:58 -0500 From: Barry Schwartz To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers, Message-ID: <20090828005458.GA10362@crud.chemoelectric.org> References: <200908261813.52044.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <652883.3253.qm@web65401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <58965d8a0908270849g600521d9j41ac0d1b7ddf5c04@mail.gmail.com> <4A96AE68.6010601@darkmetatron.de> <58965d8a0908270927p6b7c6767x4d76655b31927b25@mail.gmail.com> <605782.48149.qm@web65408.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20090827150351.c8b09e9a.frank.peters@comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 089d546b-fd87-46fb-82ab-3896ebb2e1ac X-Archives-Hash: 9446878b14da332bd049312235a3518b Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> skribis: > Frank Peters posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:03:51 -0400 as excerpted: > > > After reading this thread on the problems of the new KDE, I can only say > > that the best solution would be to abandon KDE entirely and choose > > something much simpler. > > That's what many are doing. Under a bit different circumstances, I'd be > one of them, but it does still seem to be the best for me, even if it's > taking way more work than it should for the transition. Even then, there > are bits that I'm switching to non-kde alternatives for, like the hotkey > thing. Well, I've perhaps changed my mind, after trying 4.3. I'm still using fluxbox -- easily the best wm for me that I've tried -- but plasma seems to be working well enough now that I can use it, although I still would have preferred the combination of rox pinboard and kicker. Konsole for 4 seems to need a bit more work, so I'm continuing with rox-term for now. (It's very similar to gnome-terminal.) I don't really use file managers at all except for things like browsing images and fonts; the terminal emulator is my most important tool. My main reason for running KDE is it's an easy way to get the full functionality of apps written for it. I'm too old-fashioned and messy to care about some sort of "full user experience". :)