[gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Mark Knecht]

Since doing some updates last week which I think included a grub
update I no longer get a splash screen. I cannot see my options, but
if I scroll down to a Gentoo boot then all fonts are messed up until
the init scripts get to level 3 at which time they clear up and
everything is fine.

Did I miss some instructions about how to finish the grub install or
something like that?

Thanks,
Mark


timeout 15
default 0
splashimage=(hd0,8)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title WinXP
#password --md5 $1$9QMGY1$VbDnYDEmfLDHgRGmcsdY5/
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title 2.6.24-rc8-rt1
root (hd0,8)
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rc8-rt1 root=/dev/sda2

title 2.6.24-rt1
root (hd0,8)
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rt1 root=/dev/sda2

#title  SERIAL 2.6.14-rc4-rt1
#root (hd0,0)
#kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.14-rc4-rt1 root=/dev/sda3
console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 nmi_watchdog=1 kernel_preempt=1

#title 32-bit Gentoo Environment
#root (hd0,8)
#kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.15-gentoo-r1-32bit root=/dev/sda7

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Isaac Conway]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> Since doing some updates last week which I think included a grub
> update I no longer get a splash screen. I cannot see my options, but
> if I scroll down to a Gentoo boot then all fonts are messed up until
> the init scripts get to level 3 at which time they clear up and
> everything is fine.
>
> Did I miss some instructions about how to finish the grub install or
> something like that?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
> timeout 15
> default 0
> splashimage=(hd0,8)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> title WinXP
> #password --md5 $1$9QMGY1$VbDnYDEmfLDHgRGmcsdY5/
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>
> title 2.6.24-rc8-rt1
> root (hd0,8)
> kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rc8-rt1 root=/dev/sda2
>
> title 2.6.24-rt1
> root (hd0,8)
> kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rt1 root=/dev/sda2
>
> #title  SERIAL 2.6.14-rc4-rt1
> #root (hd0,0)
> #kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.14-rc4-rt1 root=/dev/sda3
> console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 nmi_watchdog=1 kernel_preempt=1
>
> #title 32-bit Gentoo Environment
> #root (hd0,8)
> #kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.15-gentoo-r1-32bit root=/dev/sda7
>
>   
I think you will find that /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz no longer exists.  
Seems that for some reason it was removed by that last grub update.  If 
you comment out that line, you should get an acceptable text boot screen.

Isaac C

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Bob Sanders]

Isaac Conway, mused, then expounded:
>>   
> I think you will find that /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz no longer exists.  
> Seems that for some reason it was removed by that last grub update.  If you 
> comment out that line, you should get an acceptable text boot screen.

Yes or you could emerge grub-splashes and use one of those.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Eduardo Schoedler]

Grub use ncurses.
If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
I had the same problem on Sunday.

Best Regards,
Eduardo.


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From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:57 PM
To: <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

Since doing some updates last week which I think included a grub
update I no longer get a splash screen. I cannot see my options, but
if I scroll down to a Gentoo boot then all fonts are messed up until
the init scripts get to level 3 at which time they clear up and
everything is fine.

Did I miss some instructions about how to finish the grub install or
something like that?

Thanks,
Mark


timeout 15
default 0
splashimage=(hd0,8)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title WinXP
#password --md5 $1$9QMGY1$VbDnYDEmfLDHgRGmcsdY5/
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title 2.6.24-rc8-rt1
root (hd0,8)
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rc8-rt1 root=/dev/sda2

title 2.6.24-rt1
root (hd0,8)
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.24-rt1 root=/dev/sda2

#title  SERIAL 2.6.14-rc4-rt1
#root (hd0,0)
#kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.14-rc4-rt1 root=/dev/sda3
console=ttyS0,38400 console=tty0 nmi_watchdog=1 kernel_preempt=1

#title 32-bit Gentoo Environment
#root (hd0,8)
#kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.15-gentoo-r1-32bit root=/dev/sda7 

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Beso]

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2008/8/5 Eduardo Schoedler <eschoedler@viavale.com.br>

> Grub use ncurses.
> If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
> I had the same problem on Sunday.
>
> Best Regards,
> Eduardo.


what do you mean by re-emerge gentoo?! do you mean the whole system or just
ncurses?!

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Eduardo Schoedler]

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Sorry for that.
I mean re-emerge grub and install it again.

Regards,
Eduardo.




From: Beso 
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.





2008/8/5 Eduardo Schoedler <eschoedler@viavale.com.br>

  Grub use ncurses.
  If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
  I had the same problem on Sunday.

  Best Regards,
  Eduardo.

what do you mean by re-emerge gentoo?! do you mean the whole system or just ncurses?!


-- 
dott. ing. beso

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Mark Knecht]

Sorry about top posting but that seems to have taken over in this
thread. (Bad us...)

What do you mean 'install' grub again? Are you suggesting that I have
to do the whole process from the install guide with this version of
grub?

I'll have to double check python-updater. I thought I finished that
step completely. The machine is currently in Windows so I'll do that
in a bit.

Thanks for the pointer to grub-splashes. What's up with these
developers? Do they do this stuff just for the pleasure of watching
10,000 grub users have problems? Really. What's the point of removing
1 splash file and causing problems vs just leaving 1 file there and
creating a separate package for folks who want more options?

Thanks for all the help folks,
Mark

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Eduardo Schoedler
<eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
> Sorry for that.
> I mean re-emerge grub and install it again.
>
> Regards,
> Eduardo.
>
>
> From: Beso
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.
>
>
> 2008/8/5 Eduardo Schoedler <eschoedler@viavale.com.br>
>>
>> Grub use ncurses.
>> If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
>> I had the same problem on Sunday.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Eduardo.
>
> what do you mean by re-emerge gentoo?! do you mean the whole system or just
> ncurses?!
>
> --
> dott. ing. beso
>

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Barry Walsh]

To continue with the top-posting, I suspect he means the much shorter 
grub-install command to resinsert the grub bootloader into the MBR.


Mark Knecht wrote:
> Sorry about top posting but that seems to have taken over in this
> thread. (Bad us...)
>
> What do you mean 'install' grub again? Are you suggesting that I have
> to do the whole process from the install guide with this version of
> grub?
>
> I'll have to double check python-updater. I thought I finished that
> step completely. The machine is currently in Windows so I'll do that
> in a bit.
>
> Thanks for the pointer to grub-splashes. What's up with these
> developers? Do they do this stuff just for the pleasure of watching
> 10,000 grub users have problems? Really. What's the point of removing
> 1 splash file and causing problems vs just leaving 1 file there and
> creating a separate package for folks who want more options?
>
> Thanks for all the help folks,
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Eduardo Schoedler
> <eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
>   
>> Sorry for that.
>> I mean re-emerge grub and install it again.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eduardo.
>>
>>
>> From: Beso
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.
>>
>>
>> 2008/8/5 Eduardo Schoedler <eschoedler@viavale.com.br>
>>     
>>> Grub use ncurses.
>>> If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
>>> I had the same problem on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Eduardo.
>>>       
>> what do you mean by re-emerge gentoo?! do you mean the whole system or just
>> ncurses?!
>>
>> --
>> dott. ing. beso
>>
>>     
>
>
> .
>
>   

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Eduardo Schoedler]

# grub --no-floppy

grub> root (hd0,0)

...

grub> setup (hd0)

like the Gentoo Handbook.




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From: "Barry Walsh" <bwalsh@indigo.ie>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:51 PM
To: <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

To continue with the top-posting, I suspect he means the much shorter
grub-install command to resinsert the grub bootloader into the MBR.


Mark Knecht wrote:
> Sorry about top posting but that seems to have taken over in this
> thread. (Bad us...)
>
> What do you mean 'install' grub again? Are you suggesting that I have
> to do the whole process from the install guide with this version of
> grub?
>
> I'll have to double check python-updater. I thought I finished that
> step completely. The machine is currently in Windows so I'll do that
> in a bit.
>
> Thanks for the pointer to grub-splashes. What's up with these
> developers? Do they do this stuff just for the pleasure of watching
> 10,000 grub users have problems? Really. What's the point of removing
> 1 splash file and causing problems vs just leaving 1 file there and
> creating a separate package for folks who want more options?
>
> Thanks for all the help folks,
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Eduardo Schoedler
> <eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for that.
>> I mean re-emerge grub and install it again.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eduardo.
>>
>>
>> From: Beso
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.
>>
>>
>> 2008/8/5 Eduardo Schoedler <eschoedler@viavale.com.br>
>>
>>> Grub use ncurses.
>>> If you have updated ncurses, you must re-emerge gentoo and install it.
>>> I had the same problem on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Eduardo.
>>>
>> what do you mean by re-emerge gentoo?! do you mean the whole system or 
>> just
>> ncurses?!
>>
>> --
>> dott. ing. beso
>>
>>
>
>
> .
>
> 

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Eduardo Schoedler
<eschoedler@viavale.com.br> wrote:
> # grub --no-floppy
>
> grub> root (hd0,0)
>
> ...
>
> grub> setup (hd0)
>
> like the Gentoo Handbook.
>

Thanks.
Will do.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Bob Sanders]

Mark Knecht, mused, then expounded:
> 
> What do you mean 'install' grub again? Are you suggesting that I have
> to do the whole process from the install guide with this version of
> grub?
>


Won't help from what I saw last week.
 
> 
> Thanks for the pointer to grub-splashes. What's up with these
> developers? Do they do this stuff just for the pleasure of watching
> 10,000 grub users have problems? Really. What's the point of removing
> 1 splash file and causing problems vs just leaving 1 file there and
> creating a separate package for folks who want more options?
> 


I don't really know.  I suspect it was a mistake, but when I went
looking, I didn't see a bug open on it, just some forum comments
on the problem.  And, in messing around, saw that a new package
had been added - grub-splashes.  Figured that was the best way
to avoid a future issue with the splash file going missing.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> I'll have to double check python-updater. I thought I finished that
> step completely. The machine is currently in Windows so I'll do that
> in a bit.
<SNIP>

I was wrong about this. I had some blocking items to there is still a
bunch of work to do. It's running and hopefully will finish up in an
hour or two.

thanks all,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> I'll have to double check python-updater. I thought I finished that
>> step completely. The machine is currently in Windows so I'll do that
>> in a bit.
> <SNIP>
>
> I was wrong about this. I had some blocking items to there is still a
> bunch of work to do. It's running and hopefully will finish up in an
> hour or two.
>
> thanks all,
> Mark
>

To follow up and close this thread, I completed updating the machine yesterday

python-updater
emerge -DuN system
emerge -DuN world
emerge --depclean
revdep-rebuild

With all of that done rebooting I now see the boot options when grub starts.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-amd64] no boot screen, cannot see options.

[Drake Donahue]

<snip>
splash.xpm.gz was removed from /boot/grub by person or persons unknown 
presumably incident to an update.
splash.xpm.gz still exists at /usr/share/grub/splash.xpm.gz so running:
cp  /usr/share/grub/splash.xpm.gz  /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
will restore the status quo ante
running:
emerge grub-splashes
will add 8 new .xpm.gz files to /boot/grub/, as none of these is named 
splash.xpm.gz, simply emerging grub-splashes will not restore the boot 
screen. To use one of the new splashes requires editing grub.conf  's 
"splashimage= " line to reflect one of the (no doubt) wonderfully decorative 
splashes..
Alternatively, delete or comment the "splashimage= " line and fallback to a 
plain undecorated boot options menu.

[gentoo-amd64] Wake On LAN Issue

[Richard]

Good morning all,

I have an issue with my Gentoo box but it's not Gentoo-specific, or even
software-specific for that matter, so apologies for posting here.

I have enabled wake on LAN. I've set this up in the BIOS as well as in
Gentoo: ethtool is run on each boot to enable 'wol' and I've modified
configs and scripts so that the halt command doesn't power down my
network interface.

Wake on LAN works. If I initiate a 'shutdown -h now', wait for the
machine to power off then, in the next few minutes, send a magic packet
to it, it powers back up and boots. Fine.

However, if I wait a few hours before sending the magic packet, the
machine does not power back up and the machine can only be powered back
up by pressing the power button on the machine itself. After testing
this over and over, I know as a matter of fact that the only thing that
causes the magic packet to fail to power the machine back up is time; if
I leave it too long between powering the machine off and sending the
magic packet.

Has anyone else here experienced this?

Thank you in advance,
Richard

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Wake On LAN Issue

[Bob Sanders]

Richard, mused, then expounded:
> 
> However, if I wait a few hours before sending the magic packet, the
> machine does not power back up and the machine can only be powered back
> up by pressing the power button on the machine itself. After testing
> this over and over, I know as a matter of fact that the only thing that
> causes the magic packet to fail to power the machine back up is time; if
> I leave it too long between powering the machine off and sending the
> magic packet.
> 
> Has anyone else here experienced this?
>

Can't say that I have.  But what you describe is a failing Standby
voltage circuit.  It could be the power supply or it could be the
motherboard.

If either has significant age on them, then most likely to electrolytic
capacitors associated with the circuit have gone bad.  Or it could
simply be bad design and no real testing of the function during
production.

Bob
-  

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Wake On LAN Issue

[Richard]

Thank you for your help. I had a feeling it might be the capacitors :)

Richard

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 06:59 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
> Richard, mused, then expounded:
> > 
> > However, if I wait a few hours before sending the magic packet, the
> > machine does not power back up and the machine can only be powered back
> > up by pressing the power button on the machine itself. After testing
> > this over and over, I know as a matter of fact that the only thing that
> > causes the magic packet to fail to power the machine back up is time; if
> > I leave it too long between powering the machine off and sending the
> > magic packet.
> > 
> > Has anyone else here experienced this?
> >
> 
> Can't say that I have.  But what you describe is a failing Standby
> voltage circuit.  It could be the power supply or it could be the
> motherboard.
> 
> If either has significant age on them, then most likely to electrolytic
> capacitors associated with the circuit have gone bad.  Or it could
> simply be bad design and no real testing of the function during
> production.
> 
> Bob
> -  
> 

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Wake On LAN Issue

[Mike Doty]

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Bob Sanders wrote:
| Richard, mused, then expounded:
|> However, if I wait a few hours before sending the magic packet, the
|> machine does not power back up and the machine can only be powered back
|> up by pressing the power button on the machine itself. After testing
|> this over and over, I know as a matter of fact that the only thing that
|> causes the magic packet to fail to power the machine back up is time; if
|> I leave it too long between powering the machine off and sending the
|> magic packet.
|>
|> Has anyone else here experienced this?
|>
|
| Can't say that I have.  But what you describe is a failing Standby
| voltage circuit.  It could be the power supply or it could be the
| motherboard.
|
| If either has significant age on them, then most likely to electrolytic
| capacitors associated with the circuit have gone bad.  Or it could
| simply be bad design and no real testing of the function during
| production.
|
| Bob
| -
|
Modern boards usually have a LED indicating standby power.......

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