From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HsTKn-0004uW-PO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 00:43:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l4S0fuTx017998; Mon, 28 May 2007 00:41:56 GMT Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4S0ftu3017993 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 00:41:55 GMT Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so775023uge for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 17:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XllljyZFth4Tu766WfAyuLV/xU04fRlrDv4Ri8C4MYZH/kak0jdpXY64/sxUoCsbhxIP364IaBqgkpJG6dj28kQN/NC/g8bcuoUKZxZqRgQzBt2K57g4Y8eVOrxJMeujEbrPPu3SRPE8R9y0P8QYke+x1qhBocVudOKhVImf+bQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B0Ei7Bl2P7TiELCatlHzh1pZxZuZsllQjBFC/ceJxx6P9gJO2xYFp2GzQUEeQp5c+9ULUNEZMjI9i3mk4CXnlSrDxQi+ERxtrv1vzIZQVioiC902jY8BuLa64UClRQzzSgPGsY8DZLPDCQsmBNBoyV66kVVcrviRhHfszy7KFzQ= Received: by 10.67.29.12 with SMTP id g12mr4861370ugj.1180312915444; Sun, 27 May 2007 17:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Bazaar ( [86.71.195.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i5sm25063515mue.2007.05.27.17.41.53; Sun, 27 May 2007 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 02:41:49 +0200 From: Isidore Ducasse To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Sun and GPL Message-ID: <20070528024149.4f6d918c@Bazaar> In-Reply-To: References: <5bdc1c8b0705261207q2845c578rdf1d85bd2e4db1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070526165134.77091d7f@mandalor.homelinux.net> <200705270848.11742.gentoo102004@joerg.in-berlin.de> <20070527131103.770b71c6@Bazaar> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f43613f6-2d53-460d-9d72-bc571c347a00 X-Archives-Hash: 0fc358d7d362ed2085d33b0ee0432796 le Sun, 27 May 2007 23:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> a =E9crit: > Not necessarily (or likely) /all/ their software, but significant parts=20 > of it. OpenSolaris is currently CDDL, which /is/ OSI approved as a real= =20 > "open" license, but was designed in part deliberately to be GPLv2=20 > incompatible. Apparently, they weren't interested in Linux "stealing"=20 > their technologies, which they thought would happen if they made it GPLv2= =20 > compatible. Solaris' dev team had diverging points of view about GPL being relevant for= a private firm as Sun. Now it looks like there was room for a single conce= ption over there. > They ARE considering dual-licensing Solaris under GPLv3, however, which=20 > they've been working closely with the FSF on. Of course that's not a=20 > given until it's out, but it'd definitely widen the interest base (I for= =20 > one may well be interested, especially if Linux stays GPLv2 only). You mean the bare kernel, right? Solaris' kernel could be an alternative to= linux? Is the latter really different from the *BSD's? I've installed a Ne= tBSD on my machine "for fun" recently (tho I switched back to using my good= 'ol gentoo, can't get used to anything else now. pkgsrc looks like a sympat= hetic old auntie); it appears to practice monolithic kernel. What would be = different in running a GPLv3 kernel? I've read about the anti-DRM part of i= t; is there some other reason you/we could be interested in it? BTW isn't there a technical issue licensing a single version of a soft agai= nst two incompatible licenses? Or did you mean dual-licensing GPLv2 and GPL= v3? > Of course Linus and the other kernel devs were originally very much=20 > against early GPLv3 drafts. Is it a matter of diverging positions towards industrial partners/users? > The Gentoo Java devs are working on it, but as I said, I don't=20 > believe enough of the entire Java infrastructure has been released as GPL= =20 > yet to do the entire thing as sources. Even after it has, it'll take=20 > several months as experimental ebuilds in the Java overlay (emerge layman= =20 > and read up on using it, if interested) Ok! Does anyone know the difference between the java-overlay and the java-g= cj-overlay? -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list