From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HsCZk-00049F-D7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:50:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l4R6mFeQ024498; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:48:15 GMT Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4R6mELv024493 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:48:14 GMT X-Envelope-From: gentoo102004@joerg.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de (joerg.in-dsl.de [217.197.85.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id l4R6mDSR016293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:48:13 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de) by nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HsCY1-0005QD-1w for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:48:13 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de) by nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HsCY0-0005QA-Og for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:48:12 +0200 Received: from gotha.wurzelbenutzer.de ([10.10.10.107]) by nauen.wurzelbenutzer.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HsCY0-0005Q7-JB for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:48:12 +0200 From: Joerg Gollnick To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Can I run a complete desktop remotely? Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:48:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <5bdc1c8b0705261207q2845c578rdf1d85bd2e4db1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070526165134.77091d7f@mandalor.homelinux.net> In-Reply-To: <20070526165134.77091d7f@mandalor.homelinux.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705270848.11742.gentoo102004@joerg.in-berlin.de> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-Archives-Salt: 8cf6895f-bffd-422e-aa44-7f08521b7084 X-Archives-Hash: a41adda81249dfb3ec41bd6680e26d4f Hi, my experience is that X11 over ssh performs well for 2D in a 100 Mbit LAN=20 Network. If you have a WAN between X Server and X Client you get much more= =20 latency, so that this is noticable to a normal user. If you do this only fo= r=20 remote support even a fast WAN (2 MBit) link is with waiting time usesable. If you access a remote machine on a regular base outside the LAN, you have = the=20 choice: open source solutions VNC and FreeNX or closed source solution (Sun= =20 Global Desktop / Citrix ...). If you need a easy to install solution then use VNC. It works nearly out of= =20 the box (even if twm is not everbodys first choice) VNC can deal with ssh=20 Portforwarding, if the VNC Server is not directly reachable from the client. I played years ago with NX Server ( not FreeNX) over a WAN. It worked well = and=20 was fairly useable. They claim to be more efficient then VNC, as the NX=20 protocol is interweaved with the X11 protocol itself. Best regards J=F6rg Am Sonntag 27 Mai 2007 schrieb Conway S. Smith: > On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:47:36 -0400 (EDT) > Nuitari wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> Is it possible to run a complete Gnome desktop from a remote > > >> location through ssh? I'm not talking about using vnc to watch a > > >> remote desktop but actually run one remotely and only have it > > >> displayed here. > > > > > > SSH also includes functionality to allow X11 forwarding through the > > > encrypted SSH connection. > >=20 > > You'll need a fast (100mbps+) lan for it, even with the ssh > > compression enabled. > >=20 >=20 > True (although I'd say 10mbps can be fast enough, depending on how > much other network traffic there is), but with a fast enough network & > slow enough processors, it can be better NOT to use compression, as > compression requires CPU time on both sides of the connection, possibly > adding more latency than would be saved by lower data transfer on the > network. >=20 > > VNC is a much more efficient protocol then X11 for remote desktop. >=20 > For running a complete Gnome desktop session, I'd agree VNC is usually > better. But for running individual remote programs that use smaller > windows, X can be pretty efficient. And there's other advantages X has > over VNC, like hardware accelerated graphics. >=20 >=20 > Conway S. Smith >=20 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list