[gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Jakob]

Hi all,

I've just finished my gentoo 64bit installation.
While installing I've choosen a non-multilib profile, but now I think
it will be better to run am multilib system. is it possible to change
afterwards or is it better to install again.

I thought maybe its just changing the profile to a multilib and then
do an emerge -avuD world?
will that work?

thanks

Jakob
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Mike Doty]

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Jakob wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just finished my gentoo 64bit installation.
> While installing I've choosen a non-multilib profile, but now I think
> it will be better to run am multilib system. is it possible to change
> afterwards or is it better to install again.
> 
> I thought maybe its just changing the profile to a multilib and then
> do an emerge -avuD world?
> will that work?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jakob
No easy way to do it short of reinstalling.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Friday 22 December 2006 01:06, Mike Doty <kingtaco@gentoo.org> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib 
profile?':
> Jakob wrote:
> > I've just finished my gentoo 64bit installation.
> > While installing I've choosen a non-multilib profile, but now I think
> > it will be better to run am multilib system. is it possible to change
> > afterwards or is it better to install again.
> No easy way to do it short of reinstalling.

Well, Mike's probably a better source than me, but I thought the multilib 
<-> no-multilib switch could be done with a simple emerge -e world.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Jakob]

On 12/22/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.net> wrote:
> On Friday 22 December 2006 01:06, Mike Doty <kingtaco@gentoo.org> wrote
> about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib
> profile?':
> Well, Mike's probably a better source than me, but I thought the multilib
> <-> no-multilib switch could be done with a simple emerge -e world.
>
I think I just try that and if it doesn't work no problem because I
have to reinstall anyway.
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Duncan]

Jakob <jak.gentoo@googlemail.com> posted
a23345650612221005y6c0cd6c9iebeebf15edfec863@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:05:26 +0100:

> On 12/22/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.net> wrote:
>> On Friday 22 December 2006 01:06, Mike Doty <kingtaco@gentoo.org> wrote
>> about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib
>> profile?':
>> Well, Mike's probably a better source than me, but I thought the multilib
>> <-> no-multilib switch could be done with a simple emerge -e world.
>>
> I think I just try that and if it doesn't work no problem because I
> have to reinstall anyway.

The problem is that after you've emerged glibc and gcc using the
non-multilib profile, you no longer have a 32-bit capable compiler and
libc as no-multilib only compiles the 64-bit side.  Without a 32-bit
compiler and glibc, you can't (easily) compile the 32-bit compiler and
glibc necessary for multilib.

Thus, one can go multilib -> no-multilb simply by switching profiles and
remerging at minimum the toolchain, but it's a one-way switch.  Once you
are 64-bit only, you don't have the 32-bit stuff necessary to bootstrap
/further/ 32-bit stuff.  You therefore can't (easily) go the other way,
no-multilib -> multilib.

There are of course a number of ways around the problem, but the easiest,
because it's documented, is to simply reinstall from stage-3 using the
multilb profile.  Anything else, you'd better know what you are doing
(which it's safe to say you don't if you are asking the question), as you
are on your own, at least in terms of official Gentoo/amd64 documentation.

However, most packages will be 64-bit only anyway, thus the same in both
cases (unless one requires a different version for some reason or other),
and of course any 32-bit binary packages (like the emul* packages) aren't
difficult to merge once on multilib, if needed.  Thus, the only ones you
really need to worry about are the toolchain, basically glibc, gcc,
binutils, and portage's sandbox (which has both 32-bit and 64-bit
libraries in multilib mode).

Thus, the quick method would be to quickpkg those packages (glibc, gcc,
binutils, sandbox) off of a stage-3, change the profile, and merge the
quickpkg-ed binpkgs over the 64-bit-only versions.  After that, it
/should/ be possible to remerge just those packages, instead of having to
remerge the entire system, to get full multilib.  (It's likely you have to
switch the profile and merge the four binpkgs in a specific order,
however, which I might not have correct, above, and it's possible there's
a multilib package or two I missed, but I don't think so.) If anything goes
wrong, as you said, you'd just have to do the reinstall that was the other
option anyway, so nothing lost.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[sfullenwider]

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Jakob wrote:
> On 12/22/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.net> wrote:
>> On Friday 22 December 2006 01:06, Mike Doty <kingtaco@gentoo.org> wrote
>> about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib
>> profile?':
>> Well, Mike's probably a better source than me, but I thought the multilib
>> <-> no-multilib switch could be done with a simple emerge -e world.
>>
> I think I just try that and if it doesn't work no problem because I
> have to reinstall anyway.

I found myself in a similar situation and I tried that and it did work,
but only mostly.  A got a lot of weird dependency problems in strange
places, some things that used to work refused to.  I trudged through
most of it, but after awhile it just got too annoying so I just reinstalled.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Switching form non-multilib to mulitilib profile?

[Jakob]

thanks for your detailed answer duncan,  and for your experiences sfullenwider.
I think I do a reinstall again because the other way will cost too
much time with no garantie to work, and I haven't configured to much
to the system so installing again sounds the best solution for me now.

thakns and merry xmas.

Jakob
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